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Armed officers had been sent to raid the flat based on reports that Ashley kept a firearm and a quantity of cocaine there, and to arrest Ashley and another man in connection with a stabbing, but no firearm or significant quantity of drugs was found, the other man was not present, and it later emerged
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Overall I think this covers all the main points I would hope to see, with only the details above that point to anything missing (I know nothing about the case, and so my impression is only based on what I've read here). It's an interesting one overall and nicely pulled together. Cheers -
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That's fair enough. The rest looks good enough for GA. I hope it does well at FAC, and doesn't attract the attention of at least one of the individuals who is making the process rather unpleasant at the moment! -
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The suspension of the officers: as far as I'm aware, it's standard procedure to suspend firearms officers if they have been involved in a shooting: it may be worth adding a line about that.
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You repeat the positions and first names of 'Sussex's chief constable, Paul Whitehouse, his deputy, Mark Jordan' a few times, which can be trimmed
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The lead doesn't give the impression that the aim of the police raid was apprehending McCrudden – it looks like it was only drugs related
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Mention that there were six flats – it reads as if the three of them alone shared the building, rather than other tenants
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Not all of these need to be covered for GA, (which this is broadly at already) but these may help for any next steps
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Three images: two PD with good licences; one non-PD relevant for the topic, licence is complete and well rounded
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It may be worth a line or two about how a second inquiry came about. Who made the decision and why sort of thing.
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Move the drugs tip-off info into the prelude? It would seem to make more sense to have that all in the build up
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surveillance in October 1997: any idea how long it was in place?
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Reserving this for myself: I'll make a start shortly. Cheers -
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Covers the cause, the effents and the long ramifications well
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Just a few points that sprang to mind while going over it:
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