752:. That it was republished in toto with no editorial discretion doesn't change that. The closing admin explicitly stated that he didn't even see consensus to redirect after closing the AfD, so that we're even still having this discussion is a stretch. I found no hits on ProQuest that I would consider anything more than passing mentions (a news article mentioning that such and such an event will be at the mall, the same for how it would be listed for a mall in my community)—no non-local notability. But again, that conversation has concluded, and I'm only saying anything because I have a valid case against your adding that template, which is contested and should be removed.
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