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people have posted problems getting the slinger solution to work. It's a shame my article can't be included in wikipedia and reach more ex-slingbox users because it offers a much better picture quality than the original slingbox (and the "slinger" solution also because it uses the same original slingbox hardware) and my solution uses off-the-shelf hardware that you can buy anywhere, whereas with the slinger solution, once your slingbox dies, game over. So, I hope other editors would be willing to reconsider the posting of a reference to my article. Thank you for explaining all of this to a wikipedia newbie (me).
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So I don't understand why the page is considered "spam". Is it possibly because I have a "donate" link on it? If so, a donation is completely optional and the article is just as helpful to slingbox users wether they donate or not. I spent many hours creating this guide, and I just wanted to provide a
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Hi, first please excuse me if I am posting this wrong because I am totally new to editing an article. I also appologize for the first couple of edits I tried in the "Future" section because I did not fully understand the posting format (I was inserting a link in the body of
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It seems like a distinction without much of a difference because my article contains factual technical info and no potential mis-information (which would require editorial oversight). See for yourself - try finding ANY source to say my article contains ANY wrong information. In contrast, MANY, MANY
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But when I posted it, I received a warning about the link being a spam link. If you look at the article, it is a complete step-by-step instructions to help slingbox users create a working alternative to their now dead slingbox, which many, many users have sent me emails thanking me for the article.
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This and the Sling Media page had extremely old content and both needed to be refactored to separate the company from the product and technology. I also tried to maintain a NPOV on both, as the content on
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Problems" area has been gutted to the point that it now reads like it came from the Slingbox marketing team -- which it probably did. The description of the "slingcommunity" Web site is ripped directly from the "description" metatag on the site. All negative language was removed.
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In my opinion, this should be an article about the device and its innovative features and uses, not about claims against the manufacturer about how difficult it is to use, configure, or its software delivery schedules. Who's going to care about such axe-grinding, a hundred years from now?
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Slingbox (or or Video Sender) to sit in front of your video/satellite unit so it can control it.
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