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speakeasies. Not only bootleg liquor, but also gambling was available. Faro games were advertised by a tiger sign. Towns with a lot of gambling/vice were actually called "tiger towns". The tiger of the sign, indicating the availability of a card game, became the colloquial term for the club/casino/bar (speakeasy).
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This term "corruption" doesn't bother me at all here. If we use the laws of the land at the time, then indeed the speakeasies were corrupting the public by providing easy access to alcohol and not respecting the law. This doesn't equate to the moral definition of corruption, but the legal realities
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I disagree about removing the article. The writing could be improved by saying speakeasies made jazz flourish. The competition between each "joint" promoted the hiring of big bands. Dress styles were changing, but not because of speakeasies. It was mostly due to college students changing their
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Apart from the association with blindness (getting blind), which was the effect, the reference to tiger is something unconnected. The card game "Faro", which was played in the old west, subsequently became the main gambling game in saloons/drinking establishments. It would have been played in
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Can anybody provide source information for this line of the article: "Some discreet venues called smoke-easies have popped up in states such as New York, California, and
Massachusetts where smoking marijuana in bars and clubs is prohibited." I live in Boston, MA and this is news to me.
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I think that these local laws were loosely written and feebly enforced. Certainly the police knew about these places but were either bribed or just didn't care. For documentation, see the two quotations in the article. Also, the terms "blind pig" and "blind tiger" were included in
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This article is clearly pure knowledge and reinterpretation. It speaks of what was, so it should sound like it was written by a religious zhelott. I happen to be an 8th grader with a brain of a college professor. I am agreeing on not removing the article. <3kayla t.:)
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I'd always heard it came from the fact that because anyone in such an establishment was de facto breaking the law already, gangsters and whatnot could "speak easy" about business without worrying about who overheard them. Anyone know if there's any truth to that?
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I think some people, especially the young, use the term "speakeasy" because they do not know the terms "blind pig and "blind tiger." These terms have fallen into disuse in recent decades, though they are still cited in both
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It reads like a high school or really bad college essay. The author is trying to demonstrate that speakeasies caused corruption, failing. It is also not really relevant to 'public reception.'
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