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Thanks, now I'm convinced (FWIW), the only question I have about it now is how to integrate this information (relation between many different names) and these references into the article. I'll think about it myself, but if somebody has any ideas - please don't hesitate to be bold and do it.
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I apologize for editing this page myself... as the co-founder of the organization I understand that it's generally a no-no to edit the article for an organization that I'm involved with. However, I thought it would be important to update this article to reflect the recent name change that
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IMHO "Goals" is perfectly viable for the article (and might include elements from current "Purpose"). Also note that references like the one to manifesto is IMHO perfectly acceptable source (it is primary source, but in this case it can fly; it is no good for the purposes of
381:- Some random academic confirms that "Students for Free Culture started as the Swarthmore Coalition for the Digital Commons" and "In 2004, the FreeCulture.org launched, which began the transformation of the Swarthmore organization into Students for Free Culture."
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Culture had its origins in the Swarthmore Coalition for the Digital Commons (SCDC, now Free Culture Swarthmore)" is not attributed, and without ability to
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There used to be a wiki here, but it was not actively used & spammed to death. :( There are a few good uses we could make of this domain, e.g., for a free culture focused
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