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most natural phenomena, knowing the population parameters such as the population mean is practically impossible which is why sampling is done to try to estimate the population parameters by calculating sample statistics. If the sampling is done properly and the population has one of statistically correct types of distributions then the sample statistics can be used to approximate the population parameters. z score calculation requires that the population distribution be a normal curve.
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Okay I'm gonna be upfront and say flat-out that I'm asking this because I can't find any information on this anywhere else: wouldn't a section on the history of z-scores and standardisation for this be prudent? I'm sure this technique is pretty old but I think it'd be an interesting addition to the
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Sal from Khan Academy produced a short video explaining exactly why the *sample* standard deviation is different which is well worth checking out as he does an infinitely better job than I can. If you want to work through some examples, Excel provides functions for both, STDDEV.S() and STDDEV.P().
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Hi there, I read this article with interest. However, what seems to be missing to my (non-mathematical) mind is a section on the actual use and usefulness of the standard score. My very limited understanding is that this score is useful because it tells you how meaningful your results are: the more
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Granted, but, as the site itself admits, this is not proprietary material. (edit: I fail to see how this is not a fair use, considering, but I will admit that wiki has far more stringent policies on fair use than is normal, and that I may be entirely incorrect due to a faulty interpretation of wiki
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The official definition of z involves the difference between a particular score and the population mean. So in order to calculate z you must know the population mean. Knowing the population mean is very easy with standardized testing because the population is all of the tests administered. For
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Hi. Could somebody explain to me why sometimes symbols (like the Greek letters named mu and sigma) appear in pages while other times there are what seem like LaTeX codes (like \mu and \sigma)? I wonder why the codes appear, instead of their compiled output or the appropriate symbols. Thank you.
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I think this article should mention that z-scores are applicable to ANY distribution where the population mean and standard deviations are known. All a z-score is, by definition, is the number of standard deviations away from the mean. It does not only apply to the normal distribution! This
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So basically your professor is sort of right and sort of wrong. He is right if the population of interest is normally distributed and the sample statistics are good approximations of the population parameters. In many cases people will make that the distribution is normal and that the sample
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mean and standard deviation. This formula is simpler but you need to measure all of the ball bearings which could be a bit tedious! This isn't always as impractical it may seem. For example if you were standardising the results of this year's UK's Chemistry GCSE exams you will already have
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Hi, can someone please change the first row of the little table with Z scores to be 0.68ish and 1? I stopped in because I'm reverse engineering Excel's NORMINV() function (this version of Excel doesn't have function help) and I'm too busy to figure out how to update a wiki page (I never have
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Here is a suggestion, an example from research within the medical field - is this suitable here? Please note: self-citation: In a study on dogs, plasma vasopressin concentration increased at removal of both ovaries, with a 15 minute pause between ovary removal. Blood pressure and vasopressin
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statistics do approximate the population parameters well enough. The nice thing about have the entire population such as the results of a standardized test is that the researcher can calculate the population parameters and can also check that the distribution is actually normal.
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I came to this article to check to see whether "Z-score" should have a capital "Z", or a lower case "z". Both are used in the article, away from full-stops/periods. Is there a correct notation? Does the capitalisation refer to population, rather than sample properties?
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Höglund OV, Hagman R, Olsson K, Olsson U, Lagerstedt AS (October 2014). "Intraoperative changes in blood pressure, heart rate, plasma vasopressin, and urinary noradrenalin during elective ovariohysterectomy in dogs: repeatability at removal of the 1st and 2nd ovary".
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3. 'Standard normal deviate' page was written ten years ago by someone who admits they don't know much about statistics and asked for help (which, sadly, never came). Shortly thereafter, it was nominated for deletion. But yet, it stays. It is not a very good page.
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they deviate from (expected) normal distribution, the more likely it is that your data has something special to tell you. Now I am sure this is somewhat reductive or just part of the story, but more on this would be important, I think. -- Cheers, --
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I also removed the "external link" section and moved it to main text, and changed "\overline" back to "\bar". Not only do I prefer the look of "/bar", but it makes a little more sense, since the symbol is usually read, "x-bar". -
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article intertwines z-scores and normal distributions which only leads to more confusion about z-scores. Z-scores make sense in uniform distributions, triangular distributions, and anything else you can think of.
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There should be a separate entry for ...maybe even a disambiguation page for , to separate s or s (same thing) from the s of van der Waerden or Blom (altogether different from standard- or Z-scores...see
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Just one quick addition/question. Standard score in statistics is not related only to (z) scores. "It should include (z), (t), deviation (IQS), stanine, sten scores, (others...)"(Drummond, 2004).
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before). The other three Z scores look right (the 95%, 99%, etc), but it looks like someone typed 0.68 and 0.67 or something accidentally, rather than 1 (68%ish is 1 std dev from the mean).
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mean and standard deviation, for example a couple dozen ball bearings taken randomly from a production line. The article here relates to calculating a standard score from the
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I'm new to contributing to discussion pages so hope this helps and I am following correct etiquette ... You are referring to calculating a standard score from the
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for the normal distribution with mean (”) of 0 and variance (σ) of 1. The prediction interval for any standard score corresponds numerically to (1-(1-
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policy) Anyway, its not worth my time to comb google for a better one, so I'll leave it in the talk page and someone else can find something better.
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I added a link to a z-score table. z-score tables, though archaic, are definitely a part of the curriculum and should be mentioned somewhere.
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I deleted this sentence, the subject of which is 'standard scores': "They are most frequently used to compare an observation to a theoretical
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My professor (Ph.D Electrical Eng.) says this is wrong, ether type can be use... Anyone care to offer up a third opinion or clarification?
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That link is a commercial link and does not belong in Knowledge. Please find a non-commercial link with the same or similar content. --
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in context. It is often used to compare test results within and between groups, and especially with reference to a norm group. -
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I removed the following sentence because it was rendered mostly redundant by my discussion of comparing 2 students' exam scores.
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Oh, it's fair to use, it's just that the website is a commercial entity, and linking to it may be seen as advertisement. See
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Please either correct the error, or clarify why the formula in the Knowledge article is correct.
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concentrations changed in parallel at use of z‐scores (standard scores) for comparison.
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https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/265615/z-test-for-a-population-proportion
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2. Deviate (statistics) redirects to Random Variate, so, consider using that term?
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it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see
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There is an obvious lack of reference to the use of standard score with a
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http://www.dnr.state.ak.us/ssd/whtest/sashtml/stat/chap47/sect17.htm
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http://www.statsdirect.com/help/data_preparation/normal_scores.htm
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How is normalising data different from standardising data? The
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has BOTH formulas, but does NOT explain why both are used.
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is the formula for a z-statistic, utilized for the Z-test
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Where can we add the value range standardization following
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http://www.psych.utoronto.ca/courses/c1/chap7/chap7b.html
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pages doesn't give much (enough) information about this.
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Standard_score#Percentile_ranks_and_prediction_intervals
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