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even attempt to highlight the shortcomings of immunised global airline alliances generally, and of the Star
Alliance in particular - eg that the alliance's exemption from US antitrust laws permits its members to carve up markets and to collude on prices, which is illegal in almost every other industry, that its dominance at members' hub airports tends to reduce the number of independent travel options (independent of the Star Alliance) and invariably results in major price increases on prime routes to/from these hubs and alliance inter-hub routes, and that the leading members' disproportionate influence limits lesser members' freedom of action, all to the detriment of consumers. The article furthermore fails to state that this set-up could lead to potential conflicts of interest between individual members as the alliance grows, especially in economically turbulent times (very relevant to Star - eg if Jetblue wanted to join they would need a regional sponsor, in this case either Continental or United, both of whom would be very reluctant to see one of their principal domestic competitors join their alliance, or if Continental or United offer extremely low fares across the Atlantic that significantly undercut fellow alliance members Air Canada and Lufthansa to fill empty planes during the dead season in mid-winter), and that there are eminent critics of these alliances, including Virgin Atlantic founder and President Sir Richard Branson, Emirates Airline VP Tim Clark and former American Airlines CEO Bob Crandall. The article moreover doesn't discuss the dearth of financial data, ie how much it actually costs to put a mega alliance like Star into place and to keep it running, and to compare the relevant figures with additional profits generated (most alliances, incl. Star, usually only mention a difficult to verify headline figure for their alliance) and that supposed alliance advantages such as "seamless" connections between flights operated by individual member airlines tend to be most appreciated by people who generally don't pay for their tickets from their own pockets, ie corporate business travellers.
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Skyteam articles too. I reverted his changes 2 times so far (NOT wanting to start a reverting war, but his reactions feels like his intention was just to bash on Star Alliance: "23:29, 20 August 2008 166.129.137.227 (Talk) (29,624 bytes) (m sure it does unless you work in marketing for Star Alliance. Thank you for flying ONE WORLD CARRIERS please)"
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4150:- I don't think there is any reason to eliminate the flag icons. It is helpful for the reader to know what countries the member airlines are from. The icons provide more relevant information to the article, and the flags do not interfere with any aspect of the article. Visually, it also looks nice and it is not redundant in any way. Cheers,
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Zealand made an ill-advised purchase of what was already a terminally ailing airline business. In any case, it seems to me to be simply irrelevant to a Star Alliance article to speculate on reasons for Ansett's bankruptcy. Could a more experienced user edit this? I don't want to wander in and make a mistake.
4310:. Was it created for marketing and advertising purposes to promote the member airlines? To help streamline air operations to benefits passengers around the world? To create a global cartel to exercise monopolistic control over air travel? (Just kidding.) Danged if I know, 'cause nobody bothered to include it.
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Thank you for replying but your answer wasn't what I was expecting, especially from someone with such a long and distinguished
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Hi Folks, User 166.129.137.227 constantly keeps adding a Star
Alliance disasters section featuring the Madrid airplane crash of Spanair to this article. This is not a Star Alliance incident but a individual member airline one, so this should not be discussed in this article. We don't feature indivual
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Oneworld article and the way it's done there is awful. The reader wants to find out about which airlines are members in their own right at one glance. The current list is crowded and full of
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I'm often astonished when editors leave out obvious (and important) things in an article, especially the lede. Remember, an article's lede should answer the obvious question a reader might have when first encountering a subject. This one has the who. when, and where (I guess) but (strangely) not the
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the default sort is alphabetical of the airlines, but when you click on the sort-arrow again on members, it *appears* to sort by the official name of the flag's nation as opposed to the airline name (e.g. South Africa sorts ahead of
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Turkish Airlines 40.000 Status Miles within 12 consecutive months in order to qualify for Elite Membership which valid for 2 years. Renewal, members residing out of Turkey need to collect 25.000 Status Miles either within the first year or 37.500 Status Miles within 2 years of the Elite membership.
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went to the Talk page and the only reference I could find was the poster here asking the same question. I can't answer it: I'm no expert on corporate law. Are the OP for this section and me the only people who wondered about this? In all this time? That seems pretty unlikely to me. Can anyone add a
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Since I had some time to do so, I removed all hubs/focus cities from the Members section and added them to the Co-location section (which now is Hobs and Co-location). I put them in a folding table. They are limited to what Star officially refers to as "major hubs". I hope you guys are more pleased
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I removed the "Citation needed" tag from the first sentence (Star Alliance is the world's first and largest airline alliance). The issue needed is not that we need a citation - it is whether it was the first or not. It is pretty obvious that there were bilateral agreements before - but it is also
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Not only does the spelling tend to make it rather suspect, and it's unsourced, but there's considerable information under the Ansett Australia wikipedia entry that refutes the statement. Although the issue remains a politically sensitive one in Australian-New Zealand labor relations, in fact, it's
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Well, code shares or FF partnerships were an *A member indicator in the past, but you're right, this isn't a board where people can discuss about it - wikipedia is an Encyclopedia. So it would be better, to delete the potential members in all articles. Btw, TAM will announce their future membership
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changed my addings to the Future Members section, mainly about October 7, 2008 TAM Airlines announcement. This user simply added one more company over all the member countings (from 21 to 22). Just wanted to remember that TAM Airlines is still a future member, therefore not considerated on the full
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Does the Star alliance have any influence on the network of its members? At least the SAS and the Air New Zealand do not overlap well. SAS flies to Bangkok and Seattle but not to Singapore and San Fransisco. Air New Zealand flies to Singapore and San Fransisco but not Bangkok and Seattle. Singapore
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be - someone else has come to the article and the immediate questions that sprang to her mind were, "Is this not a cartel? Why is this okay when a cartel wouldn't be? How does this presumably legal cooperation between companies differ from what would be illegal?" So she scanned the article for the
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Air India DOES NOT sell Air India Express flights on its website in its own right. It links to Air India Express and those flights cannot be directly purchased with an AI code. Air India Regional however are sold directly on their website with an AI code showing that it is operated by Alliance Air
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Actually hubs are a very important feature of an alliance, almost as important as its member airlines. For a major part alliances are not about getting a person from A to B on one or the other carrier, the major part of traffic is connecting through one or even more of the members' hubs. Same does
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I concurred. The article currently reads like an informational brochure, not an encyclopedic entry. For instance, it is entirely unclear what is the purpose of the alliance, what are its sources of revenue and what its legal status is. A flood of trivial facts, which I began to clear, obscures the
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Last week there was an article on Air Transport World online, citing Star Alliance CEO Jaan Albrecht that *A was looking at/in talks with Copa Airlines, TACA and Avianca as new members in latin America as well as S7 Airlines and Rossiya in Russia, so maybe we should reinstall the potential members
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Star Alliance generally has better integration than Oneworld. That is why I argued not to include an affiliate list at all. (for example, although Air Nelson is a separate company it deliberately subsumes it's identity under that of the Star Alliance member Air New Zealand) so the choice is really
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Personally I deprecate how fussy the list of members has become. Knowing the ownership of airlines is not interesting for most readers of this article. By all means create a separate article on *A Affiliate airlines and link to it from this article, but what matters is such things as: does one get
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The article makes it absolutely not clear, what are the benefits of joining an alliance for an airline, and what are the benefits for the passengers (I am guessing code sharing, but...). Also, I don't think there is anything about the requirements, that the airlines have to meet in order to join
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I suggest to only include subsidiaries where the parent has at least a direct or indirect shareholding of at least 50%. Currently, we have some random "non-member affiliates" listed where the parent only holds a minor shareholding (e.g. Luxair, Estonian, Ukrainian). I assume there would be a lot
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Right now Shandong Airlines is not part of *A despite being owned completely by *A partner Air China. Although they use the same frequent flier program (Companion Pass) none of the Star Alliance benefits apply. None of the Shandong flights (SC) appear in the *A timetable or in any *A fare product
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SilkAir passengers holding a Star Alliance Gold membership are not entitled to enter the lounge at Changi Airport. They do not have any Star Alliance privileges and there's no mention of Star Alliance anywhere on their website or their inflight magazines. I just verified my facts and it should be
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Star carriers affilated airlines are not member in the alliance, eg SAS ownes 100% in Blue1 but Blue1 is a regional member by its own. BMIbaby (BMI, low cost carrier) is not within the alliance. Many regional airlines operate their flights on wet-lease agreement for the main carrier eg. Lufthansa
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A "regional member" is a small regional airline that is a member, i.e. Adria, Croatia, and Blue1. Other carriers operating as Express, Connection, etc. are not members in their own right, but do offer member benefits. A Chautauqua Airlines flight operating as US Airways Express is a Star Alliance
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The comments re: Aerolineas Argentinas sounds formal and is supported by two references however the text in those reference talks about the airline resolving financial issues to let it be considered by alliances such as Star Alliance. It is in no way a fact that it will join or that it has been
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Shall we include all of them in the list of potential members? And there are even more airlines with which LH only codeshares and does not have FF agreements. And what about the partners of all the other *A members? It just doesn't make sense. If there is clear indication that an airline will
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Let me just say that if anything I had written offended you, I apologize. I frankly don't understand why you would think of any of it as a personal attack but I'll defer to your judgement - I was simply offering what I thought was a sound note on improving the article. (I guess it's no longer a
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Only subsidiaries and regional carriers that actually provide alliance benefits should be listed. Lufthansa CityLine, America West, Air Canada Jazz would all fall under this category. However, bmibaby, Silkair, and the like should not be included since they have nothing to do with the alliance.
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Reading through the press releases and the sources provided, there is no mention of Air India Regional or Air India Express being members (only Air India) is a member. Avianca Brazil is a subsidiary of Avianca (who is already a member) but it is not a affiliate member. They are suppose to join
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I removed the section on potential members entirely. As long as there is no official statement from Star Alliance, idle speculation about potential members (mostly without any source) does not fit into an encyclopedia. None of the airlines that were in the list (Air India, Jet Airways, TAM and
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Since you removed Qatar Airways from the list of possible members... It's no secret that Star is really interessterd in Qatar Airways. On the other hand Qatar Airways strengthened their cooperation with Lufthansa, ANA and United last year... they are definitely leaning towards Star Alliance.
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1038:(Brussels Airlines) – Recent news communicated that Brussles Airlines is in talks with major alliances to negotiate about a potential membership. Also announced in the news was that Lufthansa is look into buying the airline this year, which would imply that it will join the Star Alliance.
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clear, that Star was the first alliance in the now commonly used sense (an alliance with global coverage). So either we leave it like it is now, and state that it is the first alliance, or we remove that statement. In any case, no point to have a "citation needed" tag. --
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At the very moment Austrian Airlines ownes a 49% Stake in Slovak Airlines. As the Slovak government is planning to sell off the remaining stake in that airline it is highly likely that Austrian will accquire these stakes. A Star Alliance membership is absolutely possible.
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I think this would be the best way. I agree that we should not include any airlines that just happen to be owned by the parent company but do not provide *A benefits. Bmibaby-NO, America West-YES, Silkair-NO, Ted-YES, US Airways Express and Shuttle-YES and many more.
1405:(most likely the same user who insisted on adding bits and pieces of this crash to all kinds of articles) placed a Spanair pic right on top of the others. As Spanair is not a core member I think either the order should be changed or the photo deleted(?). Opinions?
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removed. Actually, I don't know why is there an affiliate members section. Star Alliance website has never mentioned anything about affiliate members. Maybe on the subsidiary airline website, they just put a Star Alliance logo, so that counts right?
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I agree that the whole section should be removed, as it has been in the past. Knowledge is not a forum for speculation or a place for rumors. I removed three airlines from the list that have NO definate evidence that they would ever join star.
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I don't know how/why, but the article went from being being nearly 100,000 bytes to barely 12,000 bytes. Also, the article goes from covering recent events to only covering to 2005/6. There was a ton of information that is no longer there.
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The are not Star Alliance Regional Members, they are members by virtue of Air Canada. By the same token, airlines like "Austrian Arrows", "Lufthansa CityLine", "bmibaby", "United Shuttle" and other regional airlines aren't listed either.
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Just a remark: Much of the criticism mentioned so far is applicable to alliances in general - not necessarily only the Star Alliance. Criticising only one of them about issues that are applicable to all is just as unbalanced. The
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I think the almost pure speculation about some "potential" members is getting out of hand. Do we really need lists of "Possible members", "Likely members", "Wannabe members", "Imaginary members"... you see what I'm getting at.
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Air One is very close with Lufthansa and fully integrated in Lufthansa's Miles&More FFP. In fact they are the only fully integrated Airline that is not a Star Alliance member yet. But that seems to be a matter of time.
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I dropped it. There is no indication at all that Air Astana or Ethiopian will join *A. Code share or FF partnership is not a sufficient reason to be included here. LH alone has the following list of *A FF partners:
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I understand you do not like putting each affiliated carrier under its parent, but that is the easiest and most convenient to someone viewing the article. Also all the other airline alliances are laid out like this.
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says "Today, Star Alliance has 28 member airlines...", but only shows logos for 27 members. Anyone know what's happening? Have they added one or dropped one and not finished updating their own website?
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errors (eg. Germanwings, Condor, Freedom Air - who came up with that?) and I must admit I'm currently lost as to what has been discussed on here, as the affiliates section was alright as such.
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absence of important facts. With the great interest in this entry as evidenced in this vibrant discussion page, I think that we can have an excellent, fact-rich article about Star Alliance.
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Aegean Airlines and Lufthansa started cooperation last year and according to some statements in the German press both airlines seem to be very interessted in Aegean joining the Alliance.
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Silk Air is a fully owned subsidiary of Singapore Airlines. I won't comment on that, as I have never heard of them being a candidate for Alliance membership, but doesn't seem unlikely.
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When I said verify, I meant that is there any indication that these carriers are interested? Technically, any airline that isn't already in an alliance is a "possible" future member.
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I have recently upgraded the class of the article as it has recently improved in quality. There is more information and it is shown clearly so it reaches the next article borderline.
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Hi. Recently found information on Air india joining star alliance. I would like to include air india as a member because it is listed in the star alliance website.Here are the links
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Dbinder, you asked if someone could verify those possible future regional members... well, if someone really could they wouldn't be possible future members but future members....
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This claim requires a source. I challenge it's veracity: I believe 767's painted with Star Alliance livery were flying years before Asiana Alliance joined the alliance in 2003.
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The tables in this article add lots of meaningful information to this article. Article is heavy in data but I don't know of anything else that should be added to the article.
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members count for the moment. After integration procedures, i.e. the same way that Air India is following, it'll be considered a full member. Edit reverted to a new version.
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I really feel that this article just isnt the same without the star alliance logo on the top of the page. Perhaps, another picture of the logo should be put in it's place.
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I think it looks nice, which I have no idea if that's a policy but it certainly makes the article easier to read than a table of text. It's most certainly not too many.
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you will get an idea of the way folk thought (at least, those who bothered to comment. I shall restore the recent radical changes until a new consensus is reached...
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Does this article really need multiple photos of aircraft belonging to each of the members? Some are even multiple photos of the same individual aircraft.
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Air Canada Jazz should be added as a full regional member. You can see on their planes, it says they are a Star Alliance member. Any comments/suggestions?
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Would somebody have any idea how many miles Star Alliance flies on a daily basis ?( give or take a few hundred miles or so). Needle in a hey stack!!! Rob
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I have completely removed this section. I think any of them will be welcome back if they have citations, otherwise directly contravene Knowledge Policy —
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The text under the AUA 777 isn't correct! AUA isn't the biggest airline in EE. Maybe the *A member with the most connections to EE, but not the biggest.
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Agree with it. It should state, "Asiana Airlines was the first Star Alliance member to paint their aircraft in the current Star Alliance livery."
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1536:Cimber Air
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