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Even if you are correct, the fact remains that Tamils are not qualified for this list. To make it more comfortable for you, I would remind you that nearly all other listed names have been recognized by at least one UN agency to be stateless, but that is not the case with the Tamils. I read it as one
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I have reverted you since you have been already told that none of these sources support the claim of being "stateless". If you continue restoring this misleading content then you will surely end up at an appropriate noticeboard.
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