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logic was for modelling trust networks, then it became a general purpose formalism for reasoning with uncertainty. The current article describes the main characteristics of subjective logic, but not the mathematical details of the operators. I guess a book is needed for that. At the moment, people must read the papers to get the details. --
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In subjective logic, the statements are normally assumed to be crisp, as opposed to vague. Furthermore there are no crisp measures available, instead people have subjective beliefs about the truth of those statements. So it seems that fuzzy and subjective logic are quite different with regard to what
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The article was started because I noticed that the article on probabilistic logic requested one. It's relatively new stuff and not in the text books yet. I started working on subjective logic in 1997 and a few other people have also been involved in developing it. The original purpose of subjective
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Thanks for the comments. Well, fuzzy logic uses linguistically vague statements such as "tall" or "hot", whereas in fact you can express with arbitrarily crisp and exact measures how tall somebody is or how hot an engine is. Fuzzy logic transforms these crisp measures into fuzzy measures through
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I have reviewed some of the scholarly literature on "subjective logic", which is in fact an application of probability theory to human belief systems, in which people may be uncertain as to the truth or falsity of a particular statement. Prior to 1997, the phrase "subjective logic" had been used
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It's hardly surprising that the name "Jøsang" shows up among the cited works, because A. Jøsang's name appears on almost every scholarly work on this subject, either as an author, or in the citations. And A. Jøsang has been very widely cited by other authors.
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