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have had to hire security because they've tracked my home and my 92 year old mother's home down by finding my birth name. Anywhere I happen to see it published I try to remove it. That's all. No editing war intended. I appreciate your support on this detail. I respectfully make that request, please - do not publish my birth name on the page about my professional life as Suede. Thank you
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which describes what to do if the birth date is considered private, but the guideline does not say anything about what steps to take if the subject's birth name is considered private—it does not offer a solution at all, let alone for cases such as this with a well-known birth name. Suede's birth name
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Suede deBronkart here, a.k.a. Suede. I am an entertainer who goes by my middle name, Suede - single name only. I've asked several times here (and elsewhere) to please help me maintain some degree of privacy by not publishing my birth name. I've had fanatic fans cause me to file restraining orders and
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That is one solution. Or we could semi-protect it and put a hidden note in to not add her birth name. There are multiple workable solutions.
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