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752:. I've made a number of the changes you've requested, but some of the changes regard the removal of sourced material and I don't believe that should change - well sourced material that includes pertinent information (even if it's a little more detail than ideally the company would like to see shared in an article) would always be retained in WP, while unsourced information should be challenged and removed (I have in fact removed some unsourced content as well). Do let me know if this works out for you, but do please also review these changes with Knowledge (XXG) policies in mind - sourced fact, sourced material is generally kept in, unsourced material challenged and removed. There is a policy 230: 209: 240: 181: 318: 119: 95: 1529: 1095: 834: 434: 64: 1807:'s point on including the COP28 consensus wording in the Introduction, I think it is the right choice from a balance and fairness point of view. Coverage of this consensus consistently places heavy emphasis on how Al Jaber and his connections in the energy industry played a role in securing the agreement. Beyond the original three sources I linked, the following 363: 1727:
describe levels of advocacy without subjectivity. As the Sultan's actions/role both as a climate advocate and as a fossil fuels executive are covered amply elsewhere in the paragraph and in the rest of the article, and the paragraph still makes sense without this sentence, I would like to suggest removing this sentence to preserve a neutral tone.
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Regarding the last point: the article also states: "For more than a decade he has tried to position the Persian Gulf state as a leader on environmental issues, acting at the behest of Abu Dhabi’s de facto ruler, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed." This wording casts doubt on the advocacy. Neutrality in
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We thus have a source here owned by the UAE government (or rather someone with immediate stakes in said government) reporting on issues regarding the UAE government, which calls reliability and notability of The National as a source into question. I'd rather not use it in this article but I'd like to
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sources. The company has sought to increase ADNOC's output of crude oil from 3 million barrels of oil a day in 2016 to 5 million by 2030 which they believe is essential to avoid a global supply crunch while the world still relies on conventional fuels, using revenues to invest in carbon capture and
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3. In the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company section, the third paragraph refers to output, but this figure actually refers to production capacity and should be changed accordingly i.e. "As head of ADNOC, Al Jaber has sought to increase ADNOC's crude oil production capacity from 3 million barrels of oil
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The first paragraph of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company section includes too many unnecessary details. After the sentence "He was appointed...on 15 February 2016," please remove the last three sentences and replace them with the following sentence: Since then Al Jaber publicly listed several ADNOC
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I've had a look through some sources and am inclined to favor changing the wording to "production capacity." I can't find any sources that say Adnoc planned to raise actual output to 4 million barrels a day, not even the BBC source currently in the article. (Would like to see the sources Cartador
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Given the emphasis that the introduction currently places on Al Jaber's role as COP28 president, it would be appropriate and useful to casual readers to include a reference to the notable results of his presidency, specifically the first time the conference ever included language on transitioning
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Would you mind taking a similar look at the other points that I have raised and discussed with Cortador in this request? I think they would really benefit from fresh eyes, especially the matter of potentially adding the consensus agreement to the introduction, which definitely needs an outside
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4. Also in the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company section, the first line is "Al Jaber has tried to position himself as an environmental advocate". The wording of the original New York Times source refers to "serving as an environmental advocate" rather than "trying to position" but it is hard to
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On the advocacy point I take your meaning on sticking to what the sources state. In that case, could the sentence be rephrased to say "Al Jaber has tried to position the UAE as a leader on environmental issues." This is based on the statement you identified, and is closer to the original NYT
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climate talks. Following the summit, his role as president has been recognized due to the delivery of a climate agreement that contained language directing a "transition away" from fossil fuels for the first time.  His appointment as head of the COP28 climate talks was strongly criticized by
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is literally ran by Sultan Al Jaber's team. They are paid for creating a good image, requesting to remove negative and add positive information. Why should Knowledge (XXG) cater someone's commercial interests, let alone interests of a fossil fuel company that is trying to infiltrate climate
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climate talks. His appointment as head of the COP28 climate talks was strongly criticized by environmentalists due to his track record at ADNOC. As head of ADNOC, Al Jaber has overseen a substantial expansion of gas and oil production at the same time that
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I've added the blurb regarding the COP28 agreement. I won't include this in the lead at this point, since the agreement did receive criticism, and its mainly about COP28, not Al Jaber. If other editors think it belongs into the lead, I'll add it
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The Cop28 president, Sultan Al Jaber, has been accused of attempting to 'greenwash' his image after it emerged that members of his team had edited Knowledge (XXG) pages that highlighted his role as CEO of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company
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This article currently makes quite extensive use of The National, a UAE newspaper, as a source. Most of the uses aren't particularly controversial, as they are mostly press release-style announcements of Al Jaber doing this or that.
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as I note that you have engaged thoughtfully across other requests in the COI edit request backlog. I look forward to hearing your various thoughts on this proposed action, and on any other open points within this request.
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that manages the assignment of due and undue weight in an article and I think the overall position as it stands is fair (to the elements you have requested changes, at least, haven't had time to look at the rest). Best
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The difference is a little trivial, since obviously companies increase output capacity with the goal of increasing output, but if we're citing an actual number I'd err on the side of the exact wording the source uses.
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Can this be updated from designate to president (as he did carry out this role), and could a sentence be added to indicate the international response to his work in this capacity. The new text would read as follows:
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for weighing in and taking a close look at these sources (though I do have to note my disagreement on the 1.5 billion point, as this is referring to the same 2030 capacity projections as the other bpd figures).
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The term "output" is used by several sources (BBC, Financial Times), and BBC News has cast doubt on whether this actually refers to capacity. These sources a stronger than the EIA, which is a primary source.
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According to the Guardian, 5/40/23, the editor who wrote the above edit request is a paid employee of Abu Dhabi National Oil Company attempting to greenwash the subject of this article.
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environmentalists due to his track record at ADNOC. As head of ADNOC, Al Jaber has overseen a substantial expansion of gas and oil production at the same time that
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as shareholders in 2022. Al Jaber's goal is to expand Masdar's clean energy capacity to 100GW by 2030, making it the second largest renewable investor in the world.
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I note you have responded thoughtfully to previous requests on this subject matter and would appreciate your input on these suggestions - many thanks in advance!
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Under Al Jaber's presidency, the summit committed to a climate agreement containing language directing a "transition away from fossil fuels". This was the first
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Al Jaber was the founding CEO of Masdar, beginning in 2006, and was appointed the chairman in March 2014. Under his leadership Masdar expanded its investment in
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The second paragraph in the same section also includes too many details. Please replace it with the following paragraph: Under Al Jaber, ADNOC has invested in
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Editors largely agree that The National is at minimum not a suitable source for topics related to the UAE, and possibly generally unreliable (see
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Hi all, I disclose that I have a conflict of interest and would like to suggest the following changes to the article to bring it up to date.
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CoI editors to declare their CoI, and to use talk pages to request` all but the most benign edits. Each CoI should be judged on its merits.
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Please move the Masdar subsection to the top of the Business career section, to ensure that the section reads in proper chronological order.
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Hi. I am CB and I have a few edits I would like to have implemented for the Introduction and the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company sections.
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Update the Masdar section to the version below, which better articulates his roles and activities at the company, complete with sources:
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Addendum: there's also some other possibly not reliable sources: Energy Voice is owned by the carbon industry, and advertises itself
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2. Similarly, there is no update on the results of COP28 in the COP28 Presidency section. Could the following or similar be added:
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for the parameters used by this template for accepting and declining them, and review the request below and make the edit if it is
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and as of the end of 2022 was invested in 40 countries. Under his chairmanship Masdar underwent a restructuring that brought in
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/30/cop28-president-team-accused-of-wikipedia-greenwashing-sultan-al-jaber
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/30/cop28-president-team-accused-of-wikipedia-greenwashing-sultan-al-jaber
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Gulf Business and Gulf News are owned or partially owned by Obaid Al Tayer, who was an Emirati minister until recently.
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Here's today's Guardian article, describing the attempts of the subject of this article to improve his depiction here:
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requested 'arguing that the least carbon-intensive barrels will be required for the foreseeable future' be added and
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Edits made as requested (after review). Requestor is cautioned against making direct edits to teh article. Cheers.
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require that editors disclose their "employer, client, and affiliation" with respect to any paid contribution; see
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https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231213-uae-s-jaber-oil-boss-who-brokered-beginning-of-end-for-fossil-fuels
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Ah, my bad, I just saw what Cartador meant - the BBC source mentions a goal of 1.5 billion barrels in output per
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Implemented in the article with references. Feel free to reopen this discussion if there are any issues. Thanks,
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the context of Knowledge (XXG) means sticking to what sources state - it does not mean using neutral language.
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Exclusive: UAE using site to 'control narrative' amid criticism of oil boss leading climate summit, say critics
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Exclusive: UAE using site to ‘control narrative’ amid criticism of oil boss leading climate summit, say critics
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Al Jaber has advocated for a global approach to addressing climate change at international forums such as the
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businesses, while also attracting about $ 26 billion in international investment from companies such as
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/dec/13/cop28-deal-significant-progress-tackle-climate-crisis
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event where an agreement was reached which suggested such a direction for fossil fuels.
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Hi. I am requesting a few straightforward edits to update the article, as follows:
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In 2021, Al Jaber was named ‘Energy Executive of the Year’ by Energy Intelligence.
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definitely use "output/production capacity" rather than "output" if that helps?
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However, it appears that The National is owned by a royal and PM of the UAE.
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as being able to "provide members with a unique marketing platform".
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both indicate how Al Jaber had an impact on the eventual consensus.
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In 2009, as CEO of Masdar, he helped bring the headquarters of the
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who has helped with this page in the past. Thanks so much.
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Closing this request since it has been answered above.
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conferences, so it can carry on destroying the world?
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Here is a more formal formatting of that reference:
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