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Thank you again for your feedback. There are many examples on
Knowledge of such information. I will research and find some to quote. Again, this is the DICUSSION area. In my opinion, and that of at least one other, this article is an advertisment. I would like to discuss this further. I understand
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The suggestion is to produce a list of proven verifiable characteristics of the language so that the
Knowledge reader can be more properly informed about the PowerBASIC dialects of basic. Note that my suggestion is current only to the last version of the PowerBASIC compilers, versions 8.04 and the
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First I am not an employee of PowerBASIC Inc. and I have no financial or commercial connection to the company apart from being a paying customer who has bought and used their products for over 10 years. I regularly use the language for non-critical code ad this often includes low level code within
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I got even more confused, however i did notice some similarities. They have a
History section with some type of principles/philosophy, syntax, standard library, and a criticism section. Given the advancements in the language additional sections covering the DDT, GRAPHIC, etc. could also be
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when it was bought back by its author; in other words, the former is simply an early version of the same product. IMHO, it would thus make more sense to deal with them in the same article, and I would suggest that PowerBASIC remain the main title, as it was known by that name for far longer.
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self-published material shouldn't be used as a reference for any matters of fact. I suggest removing Rick
Knoblaugh's review in PC Magazine. Since no publication date is provided, the review can't be looked up for purposes of verification. Please let me have your comments on these changes.
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At present the article reads like an advertisement, and there is not much reflection on the quality of PowerBASIC by outsiders, except for the two book references that were added recently. The tone of the article would be improved, in my opinion, if the unsourced sections were removed:
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I have just finished reading this extended "Talk" page and notice that a reasonable amount of polemic has been posted over time about the language and its capacity by persons who appear to be hostile to PowerBASIC and its product range.
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The later capacity of COM and OOP should be properly addressed by people who have more experience in that area as I don't use that capacity in my own code.
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the information in the forums cannot be used a source for the article, but it is relevant as a base for discussion for inclusion.
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