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of the communist state, and that doesn't seem to be the case. Among other things, the
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Since the flag of Poland was changed in 1980, did the Polish government-in-exile also changed its flag at the same time or has it always had the 1928-1980 as its flag until the current
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Often we are stuck with terms newspaper headline writers used from the time (FDR, Big 3, London Poles etc) to communicate ideas that won't fit on a headline, Like "Ike" instead of "Eisenhower" or "Free French" instead of "French
National Committee". It takes up less space. Even "Nazi" was easier
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Vatican City, I noticed the the government-in-exile had some rather difficult relations with the papacy during World War Two, essentially because of an alleged complacence on the part of the Holy See towards German invaders. This could perhaps be noted in the article, along with relevant
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I know little about the history in question here, but the description of
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What is meant by this? If I'm not mistaken, immediately after the fall of Poland, there were only three Allied nations (France, the UK, and Poland), so being third-strongest means nothing. As, in their time, Norway, the Low
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May I suggest that the capitalisation of this page should be changed from "Polish government in exile" to "Polish
Government in Exile" with capital G and capital E. That is how they wrote about themselves in their quarterly English language journal "Polish Affairs" e.g. No 127 (Final) 1990
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had fled Poland. This is inconsistent with the statement made in this wikipedia article. This statement needs to be reviewed by a professional historian who has good knowledge of the evidence and this potential source of confusion needs to be credibly clarified.
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As far as I know the source for that information is "Советская историческая энциклопедия" (Soviet historical encyclopaedia) volume 11 1968, p. 316, article "Польское эмигрантское правительство" (Polish government in Exile). The full text of the article in
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Added this section with five short episodes available on the Polish Embassy UK YouTube channel - "Republic in Exile" tells the story of the Polish Government-in-Exile. Please forgive and correct me if the form of citiation is not up to Wiki standards.
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Why article does not mention that exile government of Republic of Poland declared state of war with Soviet Union in Novemeber 1939 caused by transfer of Wilno to Lithuania?
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