Talk:Pomona Envisioning the Future

1037:: If you are referring to Judy Chicago and Donald Woodman, the article has been updated to reflect their role in the panel discussions/lectures and training the facilitators. So far, I haven't seen that Judy Baca and Gilbert Luján were involved in the Pomona mural, if they were also artists that you are referring to, but I see that they were part of the initial panel discussions/lectures. I am not seeing that Kevin Stewart-Magee was involved in the initial planning for the mural, so far. And, it looks like, from another source that I am about to add, that Susan Krieg was a painting facilitator for the initial project, and I'm not seeing anything, yet anyway, that she was involved in the mural. Does that square things away for you?--— 1601:

abruptly with the landscape at the twenty-four foot figure of the the city's namesake, which has a pan-Latin appearance. Her arms are outstretched, and doves fly away from her towards a hopeful future. The landscape then reflect the congested urban-suburban sprawl of industrial pollution and over-crowded housing. The future is depicted with mountains and blue sky and the misty outskirts of a glowing city. A school of the future shows seated students in a "learning circle" and an environment that has been restored to near primordial conditions. In the distance is a vision which is millions of years away from the actual event, the galaxy

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muralist or artist. He worked as one of many painters who projected photos on walls, traced them with chalk then filled them in with paint by number in a studio that did grocery store decorating. His name is not on any of those murals. The artist lied to people about the mural and himself. The mural is not an homage to Diego Rivera. The artist made up that story to get press. School children don't take trips to see this mural. Another story. I didn't realize at the time that I made this page that the artist lied about all of those things.

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do with money or politics. The main artists listed as part of the project didn't paint one stroke of the mural. Their names were used to get more attention to this mural. The "rededication" ceremony was a publicity stunt to give attention to one "artist" because everyone felt sorry for him. He would tell people his tales of woe which turned out to be fake. We arranged for the city to give him a plaque to cheer him up. I should know as I handled the rededication event, press release...

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people painted it. Some of the mural was painted with house paint which faded. It's painted over stucco. Bldg wasn't even prepped. We all wrote articles about it to help an artist who turned out to be a fraud. A Wiki page was made about the artist. Wiki realized the guy was a fraud and took down that page. Wiki tried to delete this page originally as it's not a mural of note. No one famous painted this mural.

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You've been blocked from editing the page because of your many, many edits. You're now obsessed with this page. I have been giving you info which you've ignored. Here's some more. The mural is not on the seal or letterhead of the city of Pomona as is stated above. Here is their seal. No mural there.

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I'm going to go in and correct the article and remove my sources which I wrote as they are false. The mural wasn't finished when they started it because the main person didn't get it done in time. He preferred to sit on the scaffolding and talk to people all day instead of painting. It had nothing to

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Most of the people seen in the mural are local residents from the Pomona area. Many of the people sitting around the ring are friends and family of the artists. The mural was left unfinished in 2004 due to financial and political issues. It was finally cleaned, finished and clear coated in late 2008

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One of the artists involved Kevin Stewart-Magee is not a "famed" muralist or artist. He worked as one of many painters who projected photos on walls, traced them with chalk then filled them in with paint by number in a studio that did grocery store decorating. His name is not on any of those murals.

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I did say what was false. It's above and in the talk page. The well known artists named as contributors to the mural never painted or designed anything. They were only part of the ETF project which was many different art projects. I painted part of that mural and I'm not an artist. Kids and homeless

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1) I have asked for your help, 2) everything that I cannot find sources for will be removed. Unfortunately, as I mentioned below, I so far am not finding sources supporting what you say, but as I said, if I find them or you can provide some they will be included. Unless you have helpful comments, I

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You're saying that each of the sources printed the articles, and now all of them are wrong? This is confusing. Since there are no inline citations, I don't know what the press release covered, but I will tag it with better source. And, if you tell me what is false, I will look into it with reliable

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page was up for deletion. My friend used sockpuppets to vote to keep it. Delete this page while you're at it. I have recently found out that what I wrote is false. My friend who gave me the info lied to me. I removed the citations as I wrote some and the friend wrote others. One is a press release.

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I thought I replied. I was forced by a friend to make the Pomona Envisions the Future page. I was also forced to take the photos and add them. Louis was a sockpuppet which is why it was deleted. I told Wiki to remove my copyrighted photos as Louis is blocked. I then came and removed my photos. This

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This discussion is about whether there is a conflict of interest or not. I am hearing you confirm that there is a conflict of interest. This article is markedly different that when I started, per your comment about the number of edits and the focus on the project in the past 24 hours. As I said to

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I was in charge of the "rededication." It was fake. It was never originally dedicated and can never be dedicated. It's a privately owned mural painted on a privately owned building. The image is now privately owned by the owner of the building. No one can take photos and give free licenses for the

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It is not your right to remove these sources... and you are still not telling me what is false. I am using other sources for the moment and so avoiding your sources, so they are likely to get deleted. But please hold tight while I try to clean this up... especially since you are not saying what is

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relief of laborers in a "x" configuration, representing the indomitable strength of labor. They support a bowl containing varieties of fruit that were traditionally harvested by predominately Latino migrant workers. The decline of the citrus industry is represented by dead citrus trees that stop

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I was forced to make the page. I didn't realize the information I was given to make the page was false. I have a conflict of interest so you should delete the page. All of those articles were written after I made this page. They are the result of this fraudulent page existing with all that false

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is making a manic number of edits. Also please note the top post on this page. That was posted by a sockpuppet friend of one of the artists who made this page. It is false. The mural is not on the seal of Pomona or city letterhead. One of the artists involved Kevin Stewart-Magee is not a "famed"

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I have not added anything that is personal opinion. Since you say you wrote the article, you should recognize the verbiage. I am just moving out of the way the content that is too detailed for the moment, as I said in the edit summary. It's likely most if not of all of this will be deleted if I

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made 63 edits on this page in 24 hours. I've never seen a more compulsive, obsessed Wiki user ever. You are what tripped the "too many edits" robot. What is your relationship to this mural and the artists? I see it was on your watch list as you replied within about a minute to my

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I am not sure if you're watching the edit summary, but I have found sources that disagree with what you are saying. If I find sources, though, that differ I will reflect that. If you know of reliable sources that support your position, that would be helpful to

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The mural was restored and finally finished in 2008 with funds from the City of Pomona Board of Parking Place Commissioners. A bronze plaque from the Downtown Pomona Owners Association was added on October 4, 2008 at the re-dedication

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state that "you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation." An editor who contributes as part of his or her paid employment is

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The "notes" you added are your personal opinion. You are reading things into the work. The article is supposed to only be about items which have been posted in well known media sources. It's not for your personal opinion.

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Cheryl Bookout was paid $ 3,500 by Kevin Stewart-Magee to help with the fake "rededication" for the sole purpose to give him press. Bookout also wrote "articles" about the mural to help Magee. That is another conflict of

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There is a lot of backstory about me, but that's not a necessary topic. I truly hope that you do have a happy holiday now, and can put this article behind you, because it sounds like you have had a rough experience over

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Another correction. Lief is not an artist in the paint medium. He's a house painter and a musician. He's a nice guy but he just sprayed the clear over the final mural. Magee added his name as an "artist" painter as a

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Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License, in which "permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document."I see no evidence at all that these are being considered for deletion. What happened after:

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First of all, no one owns references as stated on the user's talk page and in the edit summary when I returned them. If there is an issue with use of copyrighted material, that's another and different issue.

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Based upon the comments on this page from Mary Cummins, I am using primary sources and not using local papers for this article. So, there is a heavier reliance on primary sources as a result. I have marked

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The images appear as if they were properly licensed for use, so I am not sure what the issue is - unless the images were not taken by LouisBrownstone as stated in the licensing info / summary of the files:

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Or, if you have an early reference about the mural artists that excludes him, that works, too. That would get us one away, I think, to the "8" mural artists mentioned by the management company.--—

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I feel bad that everything I am finding, from various kinds of sources, don't support what you're saying. I am only making edits based upon what sources tell me, which is our role as contributors.

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for the sources that have been used in the article, because, IMO, they are most likely to know the actual details of the project. Suggestions, thoughts, etc. would be helpful.—

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The well known artists named as contributors to the mural never painted or designed anything. They were only part of the ETF project which was many different art projects.

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The well known artists named as contributors to the mural never painted or designed anything. They were only part of the ETF project which was many different art projects.

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Cal Poly Pomona Library, Special Collection "Envisioning the Future," Collection number UA2004/2/1-9, Bldg 15, room 4434. Historical documentation of project and artists.

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from editing the article directly, but are always welcome to propose changes on the talk page (i.e., here). You can attract the attention of other editors by putting

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September 15, 2004, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, "Her fate on the LA County seal is sealed, but the Goddess Pomona now looms over the Thomas Street Plaza downtown."

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Pages don't get deleted because someone wants them to be deleted. What is your reason for why this page should be deleted, i.e., what Knowledge (XXG) guidelines?

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made 63 edits on this page in 24 hours. I've never seen a more compulsive, obsessed Wiki user ever. You are what tripped the "too many edits" robot.

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If it is that there is a sockpuppet issue, and the person no longer wants their information on Knowledge (XXG), information is entered into the

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At least one major contributor to this article appears to have a close personal or professional connection to the topic, and thus to have a

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Regarding your comments about my input to this page. I have addressed the COI issues - and here is my feedback about the article content.

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It sounds as if you are declaring a close connection to this article, even moreso than before, so I will post that notice on this page.--—

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photos of that mural. I wrote and sent out a fake press release. I didn't know I was being fed false information by the painter. I do now.

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The edit summary says: "Removed my copyrighted photos which were not authorized to be on the page. Also removed my un-cited references."

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Regarding the files, it is appearing that they might need to be pulled from Knowledge (XXG). And, you were pinged into that discussion.

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I was forced by a friend to make the Pomona Envisions the Future page. I was also forced to take the photos and add them

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Mary, I have not ignored it. Please see my postings... no reason to duplicate what I've already said, except for this:

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February 1, 2004, Poly Centric, Cal Poly Pomona Campus News, "Envisioning the future challenges local art community."

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Rivera, October 1, 2008, Indybay Media, "Celebration for 'Pomona Envisions the Future' mural in Pomona, California"

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I don't remember why it was on my watchlist, I have written and worked on a number of visual arts articles, per

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As I've done more work on the article, I have a better idea of things. So, here is some direct feedback:

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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September 14, 2004, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, "Teacher becomes larger than life as Goddess Pomona."

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And, based upon comments about falsifying articles, that these might be the ones to be clear to avoid:

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I told Wiki to remove my copyrighted photos as Louis is blocked. I then came and removed my photos.

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November 13, 2003, "Envisioning the Future" Pitzer College to Host Opening of Judy Chicago Project

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Brown, Betty, February 29, 2004, Art Scene California, "Judy Chicago's 'Envisioning the future.'"

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I have recently found out that what I wrote is false. My friend who gave me the info lied to me.

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I have been trying to track down what is happening, and I have to admit, I'm really confused.

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Rodriguez, Monica, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, October 4, 2008, "Art now for the future."

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Pomona_Envisions_the_Future&oldid=756427450

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Rodriguez, Monica, July 25, 2008, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, "Mural gets some care."

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The mural is not an homage to Diego Rivera. The artist made up that story to get press.

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exist to draw attention and ensure that more editors mediate or comment on the dispute.

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When looking at the sources, it appears that these might be the most viable ones:

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You are good at throwing accusations, so I am not surprised by this comment.—

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February 28, 2003, Absolute Art, "Call for artists, "Envisioning the future."

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to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include

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Muckenfuss, Mark, September 8, 2004, Press Enterprise, "Mural Celebration."

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If there are sources, and I've missed them, that would be good to know.--—

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Wiki tried to delete this page originally as it's not a mural of note.

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I removed the citations as I wrote some and the friend wrote others.

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Update with link to where I posted the comments about the content.—

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School children don't take trips to see this mural. Another story.

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https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Seal_of_Pomona,_California.png

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Pomona Envisions the Future

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information. The page was about the mural not the project. You

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contributor has declared a personal or professional connection

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There is now an editing restriction on the page because user

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The mural is not on the seal of Pomona or city letterhead.

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Wiki realized the guy was a fraud and took down that page.

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I did say what was false. It's above and in the talk page.

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changed the page and are now making it about the project.

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changed the page and are now making it about the project.

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It depicts the prehistoric landscape of the indigenous

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The artist lied to people about the mural and himself.

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Can you find me sources that support your statements?

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secondary sources and see if I can square that away.—

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is seen in the morning sky as it approaches our own

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