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The only related content I can find on that page is: "They found a beautiful land with white sandy banks and called it Igu-Ocha. Igu-Ocha is called Port
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First and foremost, it is wrong to remove content that is sourced from articles. There are sources there (refs 12,13,14) to support the content. Second, we still haven't concluded on the discussion and you just quickly removed the content. Third, everything you said is your own point of view as long
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Can you kindly provide reliable sources which says the GENERAL native name for PH is "Ụ́gwụ́ Ọ́chá"? I have tried to look it up and I can't find anything. Only blogs dubbing what's on wikipedia. The ones I read discussing the name are discussing the controversy around it. It seems the name, like the
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The claim that Port
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What I removed isn't what the conversation is about. I removed a claim that
Ikwerre is a subgroup of Igbo, a claim that is disputed according to several reliable sources on the ikwerre page. If it is disputed, you can't put it on this page like the absolute truth. Just put it as "Ikwerre people",
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I mentioned the three definitions, so you can understand the three concepts. Publications are notorious for mixing up definitions...that's why I refered you to the
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1348:(1994), "Iguocha", an Ikwerre name, was clearly called the native name for Port Harcourt. Note that Ikwerre people are the native people of Port Harcourt and whatever they choose to call their homeland in their native language will be considered as native name for the area.
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Thanks for clarifying the info about the LGA. I have corrected the stats based on this info. The figures are perfect as they are now. If you feel any of the figures are incorrect, please reach-out here before altering the figures, to avoid editwarring.
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Or maybe i misundertood you, are you saying that the metropolis is not a single entity/city proper of Port
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The same goes for this part: " Prostitutes who operate out of these red-light districts mainly fall in the 18-30 age bracket and may charge as high as ₦25,000 a night, if not more" you should overlook this passage to be in line with wikipedia's
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page 31, Port Harcourt is known as Iguocha while ref 14 (1973) in the article says that Iguocha is the Ikwerre name for Port Harcourt, but a corruption of the word Ụ́gwụ́ Ọ́chá which is what ref 13 had called it. Guess this is why
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