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I have recently been updating and expanding the examples of PY in the table section (with references) of this article. There does not seem to be any obvious criteria for inclusion or exclusion in this table, and I find myself wishing to add more and more boats. As a result the table, and hence the
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I do agree that "handicap" should probably point to "yardstick", and both names need to be mentioned in the article (like "handicap" does currently). My once concern merging these two is that the content is different! I wrote the "handicap" article, pulling data from the website, and all the
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At some point during the 1990s the UK system was changed from 100 based numbers to 1000 based numbers to allow for more precision. The name of the scheme is The RYA Portsmouth
Yardstick Scheme. Merging the articles makes sense. See
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I support proposal to merge the two articles. One article to have a redirect to the other article. Not sure what the correct name is but I think that it is 'yardsick' - if so the redirect is from 'handicap' to 'yardstick'
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