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477: 370: 349: 113: 95: 279: 269: 251: 181: 163: 64: 442: 191: 692:- There may have been no concensus to change but there was also no consensus to retain in its current form. There are many people on both sides who are in favour and who are opposed. Also can you please provide some evidence to susbstantiate the claim made that she is better known by her ennobled title.-- 674:
is quite clear. Additionally, a quick check of google news confirms that she is now more commonly known with her peerage title than without. Note that Lucy-marie consistently opposes all conformance with NCPEER, and has failed to gain consensus to change
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Almost all of the coverage is about her career as a journalist. Based on this, the article should stay at its current title, although it's probably too early to determine. If other people are finding different results, please provide links or references.
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Except that the guideline we use is not a look for what the majority of sources say, but whether or not the person is "almost exclusively" known by their common name. As she is quite frequently known by her title, none of the exceptions applies
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A search in Google News (for the name "Wheatcroft", and only for recent news, as coverage after either
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is quite clear. This peeress is no longer wholly or exclusively known by her pre-peerage nomenclature.
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Only took her seat today. Just seen it happen on The Record on BBC Parliament.--
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Only took her seat today. Just seen it happen on The Record on BBC Parliament
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naming guidelines, the person's name comes first, followed by their title.
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says that she will stand down, and was published in November. --
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When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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That is an argument against NCPEER and not relevant here.
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Is she still Editor in Chief of the Wall Street Journal?
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
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