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Aloha Vick. Although I live in Hawaiʻi, I don't work directly nor indirectly for PTC, which I feel I should clarify given your tagged concerns around the article being an advert/not objective. I have attended their conference twice as I work in this industry. About the only piece of puffery or
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This is well explained but we might need to agree to disagree. I didn't imply that you have a COI, in fact, there are far worse drafts. However, this article applies to the organisation. If we're creating another article for the conference, then
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