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LOL. From all movies and episodes I've watched, old and new, there is
Nothing philosophical about it. At least not anymore than ANY other random sci-fi book, story, or movie. The fact that it might have been intended to include philosophical concepts, or that original shows stimulated you personally
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I think this lends itself more to being divided into a table by title, genre (relating to the philosophy(s) it represented), and author rather than the haphazard string provided. There are a lot more out there, and it would be easy to tack on and take away, than it would be to edit the structure of
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I removed this from the end of the (currently) last paragraph, since it was ungrammatical, unclear in general, and unclear re how it related to the preceding information: "This kind of script is to use a normal story to explain easily difficult, or dark, ways of human life. For example, in "The lie
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This makes me wonder if any other TV shows were overlooked regarding the genre of philosophical fiction. Though honestly, I don't know of any other TV shows that do it to the same level as the original STAR TREK. For that matter, even the later STAR TREK doesn't do it at the same level as the
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In addition to the useful list of topics given, which could perhaps be condensed, what about other areas which philosophical fiction addresses like the cosmos, time and space, human existence, the human mind and
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It shouldn't be mentioned because it's not a novel at all, and more than Plato's dialogues are plays. It's never shelved as fiction. I will remove it unless someone has a persuasive argument for its inclusion.
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