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relationships are in baseball, also considering that some ECHL teams are affiliated to more then one NHL team, for example the Florida Everblades are affiliated with the Carolina Hurricanes and Florida Panthers on the NHL level but are only affiliated to the Albany River Rats on the AHL level. As for you question, based on the information on the ECHL, it would lead me to believe, also based on the press releases by Trenton and NJ, that the Flyers no longer have a relationship with the Trenton club and are w/o an ECHL affiliate. --
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was in place. Seven seasons, seven starters. I remembered that because I wrote a piece for a hockey website in the fall of 2001 bitching out the Sabres fans for screaming for Biron's head, on the grounds that the hyena pack had driven out of town some perfectly good goalies while team defense (led by Dale "Who, me, backcheck?" Hawerchuk) was allowing 35 shots a game, and were screeching now because Biron had the bad luck to follow the best six-season stretch of goaltending in the whole expansion era.
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playoff version as the division champions. Banners are really up to the individual teams as there are no league rules on what you can put up a banner for or not. And individual media guides are also created by the individual teams so can probably also be chalked up to trying to promote their own product. Really its only what the league considers the division champion that matters. -
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With regards to the Flyers and Kate Smith's 'God Bless America', there was incorrect information claiming the tradition was started. In truth, the tradition had been started some years earlier. I have rewrote the basics and moved it to the appropriate section, as well as mentioning the importance of
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The Devils’ protected list consists on the following players: goaltender Joel Martin; defensemen Chris Barr, Jerramie Domish, Daryl Marcoux, Jake Ortmeyer, James Pemberton, Evan Shaw, Luis Tremblay and Brett Westgarth; and forwards Scott Bertoli, Chris Capraro, Les Haggett, Jim Henkel, Gregg Johnson,
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Why is it that for the 1973-74 season, when the Flyers won their first cup, that it does not say we won a Conference Final? Also, for the 1976-77 season, it says we won a conference final but we did not appear in the Stanley Cup Final. I had edited that, in what I thought was fixing it, but not long
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I edited the text regarding the goal that Flyers goalie Doug Favell gave up against Buffalo's Gerry Meehan in 1972. The distance Meehan was from the Flyer's goal was greatly exaggerated in the text and in NHL folklore over the years. I have seen the goal on YouTube and it was from inside the blue
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And while I'm thinking the Sabres and recent history alone, there's the turbulent pre-Hasek stretch: Barrasso was the starter in 1988, Jacques Cloutier in 1989, Darren Puppa in 1990, Clint Malarchuk in 1991, Tom Draper took over from Malarchuk and Puppa in 1992, Grant Fuhr in 1993, and by 1994 Hasek
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I think it is an angle that is over-played by the media. When compared to certain teams such as the Devils with Brodeur, yes it is a glaring difference. However, when you compare it with other NHL teams it isn't as bad. If the Flyers weren't so tight against the salary cap this past summer and Biron
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Many teams, especially in this free agent era, have similar revolving doors. Right now, for instance, the Bruins have only FIVE players on their payroll who started the season only three years ago. If we're talking goalies, Buffalo's had four starters in the last ten years - Hasek, Biron, Noronen
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Although I personally can't stand the Flyers, I'd help with this if we can get it started. The Flyers (although I hate to admit it), have a very interesting history full of major accomplishments as well as tragedy (the goalie who died while drunk driving...I can't think of his name at the moment).
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Sorry to have to do an edit, on the Philadelphia Flyers page, but...under the "Broad Street Bullies" section, when the topic of their games against the Red Army comes about, there was a BIG error. I changed "Wachovia arena" to "Spectrum" since that is what the arena they played in was known as.
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I think (and nobody ever listens to me so im probably wasting time) that there is a need for an additional section about the constant change is goalies. The flyers changed there goalies so fast and so much that they received a nickname. Can anybody mention there goalie change. I think after Garph
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Yeah I think it is quite noteworthy of writing the 3-0 zip game comeback but can we get someone who isn't such a diehard fan to clean this up so it doesn't sound like an article written up by a fan/ sports illustrated writer, the idea is to present the facts without having a fan bias, I know its
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I still think it is premature to delist Trenton as an affiliate without confirmation. When the Devils bought the Titans, that didn't mean the Flyers were suddenly no longer affiliates. While the name change might indicate that the relationship is coming to an end soon if not already, there is no
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The Flyers consider themselves division champions 15 times. That includes 1982–83 and 1985–86 and doesn't include 1988–89. See the Flyers 2010–11 Media Guide, p298. I'm aware there are some teams who go by the playoff champion and I think at least one has banners for both (Pittsburgh?). But the
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The NHL media guides from that time period only recognize the playoff version as the division champions. The teams themselves as is noted vary on what they acknowledge, but really that comes down to just trying to promote their own product. But the official NHL guides have been recognizing the
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You have to remember though that the affiliation system in hockey, especially in the levels below the AHL, aren't like that of what you see in baseball. While many of the teams do have affiliate relationships to a NHL club, not all do, in the ECHL their not as exclusive as the affiliate
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confirmation suggesting it is over yet. I suspect confirmation will only come when either the Flyers name a replacement affiliate or when the time comes to send extra Phantoms players to the ECHL this fall. Until then, I think the Trenton Devils should be left on the affiliates list. --
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The Flyers in the 70's were known as the Broadstreet Bullies. The reason for this was that they fought alot more than most teams and often used dirty playing tactics. (atleast thats what non-flyers fans will say. flyer fans will probably think they did no wrong lol.)
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Perhaps the 2010-11 book is making an error in retroactive info. Re-starting with the 1993-94 season, all division titles are of the regular season. But from 1981-82 to 1992-93, playoff division titles were apart of the picture, along with regular season titles.
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article? If we are to have such a section, the only records worth noting are the franchise career marks, in my opinion. I guess it largely depends on the rationale for the inclusion of records when the Devils article received FA-status, which I am unaware of.
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How do I know this? I spent the better part of my childhood (8 to 18) with season tickets to the Flyers games at the Spectrum. It wasn't until the new arena was built (originally the "CoreStates Center") that Wachovia became involved.
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I am aware that the Devils bought the Titans and changed the name, but I am not sure that the Flyers have terminated their affiliation with them, yet. Do any links exist which might prove the affiliation agreement has been terminated?
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His Flyers contract is a two-way deal, meaning if he doesn’t stick with Philadelphia or its farm team, the Phantoms, and goes to the East Coast Hockey League (and Flyers’ affiliate the Trenton Titans), he’ll still make AHL money.
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WOO! Flyers make history as being the 6th team (I think) to come back from a 0-3 defeceit in a 7-game series and win. I can personally stand the flyers. I'm not sure if this should be listed here because it is already listed at
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While they wore long pants for 1981/82 and 1982/83, at least in 1982/83 they wore a long-pant product from CCM, and their equipment may have been CCM products in 1981/82. Cooperalls were made by a different company, Cooper.
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I would like some proof regarding these NHL media guides from the 1980s since these things should be cited and not merely assumed. Do the modern media guides differ? Do they list both regular season and playoff champions?
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I've got it. They were referring to the section title of "The Hextall era", which is obviously ended since Hextall was fired. This is why I personally hate naming sections after people, POV concerns notwithstanding.
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Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren said that no decision had been made in regard to the Flyers continuing to send players to Trenton. Trenton has been the Flyers' ECHL affiliate since the club began play in 1999.
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There were no Conference Finals, until the 1981-82 season. From 1974-75 to 1980-81 season, the team that finished in first place in each Conference during the regular season, were designated Conference champions.
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In one of the Simpsons episode's, the Philadelphia Flyers team of 1976 appears. And they are portrayed in an evil manner. Why is that? What was so "evil" or "bad" about the team of 1976? Or was it just a joke?
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Probably. I only remember the flames one because I was living there at the time and there was a cartoon cover on one of the papers with like 6 or 7 goalie masks on the front and some joke type comment when the
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I think the effort should be made to get this article FA-status since it doesn't seem that far away as it is (sourcing being the major deterrent to those chances). I am not sure how to go about this, however.
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had lowered his salary demands (he wanted $ 4 million and ended up getting less than half that on a one-year contract from the Islanders), Biron would more than likely still be the starting goaltender. --
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members oppose the silly links to championship or near-championship seasons. There are core articles on the Flyers that will lead a reader to this information in a more organized way. Most notably,
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I recall reading what I think was a blog entry hoping the Flyers would continue to send players to Trenton a while back, but until I find it (if I ever do), the following links will have to suffice.
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I made a couple changes to this page in the past day, most notably the expansion of the Franchise history. There are certain places I should have trimmed down a little more so as to not make the
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We're currently not showing all the division playoff champions, on all the team articles though. Here (for example), the Flyers were 1989 Divison playoff champions -yet we're not showing that-.
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Yep. As with many other pieces of information that people want to stuff into leads, templates or infoboxes, I have a bit of advice for those interested in a hockey team's retired numbers:
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and Miller - and that's the exact same number the Flyers have had. It's useful before deciding that the team you root for's unique in some way to find some sources saying so.
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Then there is this protected list of players from Trenton which includes two Phantoms players from last year (Zingoni spent most of the season with the Phantoms).
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Sorry I said we. I am a Flyers fan and forgot to use a neutral word. That is my bad. I should have just used, the Flyers. Same for the other season I mentioned
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I have pretty much stuck to the Devils page format but I do wonder about the Franchise records section. Perhaps some of those records could be tacked onto the
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Howabout the 1989-90 Nordiques: Ron Tugnutt, Jacques Cloutier, John Tanner, Stephane Fiset, Scott Gordon, Greg Millen, Mario Brunetta & Sergei Mylnikov.
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It was an easy decision for the Flyers when the Bermans owned the team, but since the Devils took ownership last September, things have changed.
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I used an asterisk next to '84-85, '86-87 & '88-89 & explained that the NHL recognized Divison playoff champs from 1981-82 to 1992-93.
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Is this section really necessary? Since the media outlets are already listed in the infobox it doesn't add much of anything to the article. --
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exciting to see but lets make an effort to be objective... saying that lets hope we can see the broad street bullies end up in the finals.
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Heck there was a year that the Calgary Flames had I think it was 6 maybe 7 starters in a single year. They kept losing them to injuries. -
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as a source. It lists the ECHL teams and their NHL and AHL affiliates as of May 22nd, 2007 and the Flyers aren't on the list at all.
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I do believe the "Devils" are specifically a NJ Devils affiliate only, otherwise they would have kept an ambiguous name, like Titans.
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In the list of conference championships, 1976-77 is listed. The Flyers lost that year in the conference finals to Boston.
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I don't see any mention of an affiliation on the websites of the Flyers, the Phantoms, The Trenton Devils, or the ECHL.
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What is shown in the article right now is not correct. The Flyers did not wear Cooperalls for two seasons.
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Flyers go by the regular season champion and it should remain as such in this and other Flyers articles. --
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This section (and it's subsections) have been changed to pros style (again), as called for by consensus at
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after, it was reversed. Could someone explain why these two, mentioned above, should not be edited out?
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Indeed, thus we don't need such a section within this article 'or' any of the other NHL team articles.
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Wiki's History of the Flyers: 184 kb. History of the American Revolution: 149 kb. Priorities, people!
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until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
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like they are in other leagues? If there is no "rule" against it, then should we add them?
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The Flyers general manager is Fletcher, not Briere. Why does someone fix it all the time?
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linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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Perhaps with a note that the Flyers only have banners for the regular season titles? --
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article irrelevant (though if articles are created for every single Flyers season like
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Conference championships went to the regular season champs from '74 to '81. --
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My idea was best, as it designated which were playoff & which were both.
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I checked to make sure the win percentage of .576 is correct and it is. --
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Holmgren said there are other options, but Trenton makes the most sense.
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Respect to the original poster, but the Spectrum is not the FU center.
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style (against WikiProject's guidelines) could be seen as vandalism.
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Didn't the Blues or Nordiques have a season of numerious goalies?
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I made this edit for all hockey fans, Flyers fans specifically.
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An incentive Laliberte hopes keeps him in the Keystone State.
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What team has the best all time win percentage in the NHL?
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line, not at center ice or 80 feet out as written here.
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the tradition during the 1973-74 season and playoffs.
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up to the rafters. The Islanders also appear to go by
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Tampa Bay had 5-6 goalies a season in the late 90ies.
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