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For known vandals the good faith presumption is sorely tested. In this case I just reverted and asked for a cite. I did not add a vandal warning to the editor as I did not know for certain and might have been a good faith error. I believed that the since the fact was cited, was there a long time and therefore presumed true that any changes to the fact cited would likely be corruption. Whenever I see a cited fact changed I want to see a change in the cite to support the change. --
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Understand that there is significant vandalism on this article. Lots of vandalism is IP editors corrupting facts. Making a change without changing the cite that follows is a pretty strong tell. A note in the edit summary, like you did, can head off a lot of misunderstandings. A revert with a request
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It's easily done here. If you're from somewhere outside the U.S., you might not know that
Chesapeake and Potomac is infinitely more likely than Chesapeake and Pacific, but at least you could check out the Delano Lewis article for confirmation. It's a working wikilink, for heaven's sake, right in
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I just looked back to June 3, 2007, prompted by NrDg's point about the
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But then, when I look and also find out there's actually a C&P Wiki-article, and rather than check it out, you start from the assumption that an uncited edit by a random editor is wrong and should be reverted, demanding that the editor prove his point, well, it leaves a very bad
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Pacific? Not a very helpful edit, when looking it up on wikipedia would establish the fact. Please do the most basic of research before reverting a new editor's correct edit. This is the kind of thing that turns off newbies. Please check out
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this Phill Lewis article. Instead, you assume bad faith based on a "profile" Heavily vandalized page + anonymous editor = revert first and ask questions later. Nah, don't even bother to ask questions. Demand that the anonymous editor prove his edit.
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Why is that when actors are Jewish, Italian, French or any other ascendance (always of
Caucasian race) are labeled only as just "American"? I have yet to see to actor/actress labeled as a “Jewish American” (or “European American” for that matter).
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you'd be thrilled too if your son, the youngest one, the actor, had landed the lead role in a TV series. So the
Lewises are sending cards from their Potomac home to invite their friends and relatives to tune in to CBS on Sept. 18 ..."
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Someone deleted all of the information related to Phill Lewis' conviction for manslaughter. It was true, sourced and notable. Please discuss proposed changes here and acheive consensus before attemprting so drastic a change.
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Is that a subtle way to say that U.S.A. is composed of "Americans" (anyone of
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Does he appear in the one pilot episode of the MacGyver spin off "Young
Macgyver" (2003)? It was never aired, but it's posted on youtube and there's a dude who looks kinda like him XD
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