Talk:Phineas and Ferb season 4

1161:), then they should be separate. Airing on the same day does not automatically denote that they are the same and should be paired. Many shows have doubled up airings of episodes in the past (and will continue to do so in the future). Sometimes it is down because they know they are getting cancelled and they are rushing episodes out, sometimes it is to fill empty slots left by other shows that cannot air for whatever reason. So, unless they are is a reliable source actually saying they are the same episode then they need to be separated. As for ordering, we place them in the order in which they air, NOT the order of production. Again, production order is irrelevant as many shows will film an episode in one particular order and change it for broadcasting (example, 1319:

to air alone. (This may create a discrepancy between the number of episodes we see in an episode list, and pick-up announcements. That is, we might read "Phineas and Ferb was picked up for an additional 26 episodes", but then have a list of 52 unique carts.) I might think it reasonable to yield on my no pairing position, if it could be demonstrated that subsequent to the original airing, Disney started airing paired carts consistently. That is, episode X always airs with episode Y in reruns, and/or the two are paired as one episode on the DVD, that might suggest they were intended to be one episode.

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1. The Futon Critic shows the "A" and "B" as the production numbers. The episodes only are paired when they air together. 2. Zap2it pairs them when they air together. 3. It's common; episodes are paired only for release on Itunes and stuff. I still don't get what point you're making. Episodes should

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The individuals commenting on the side of pairing the episodes have insufficiently demonstrated why the pairings should occur. Rather than keep demanding that other users provide sources to your satisfaction, you should be providing sources and coherent arguments that support your perspective. That's

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I don't think this conversation is going anywhere. If the users who want the episodes to be paired are not capable of expressing their positions coherently, then we should wrap up the discussion and move on. There's too much to do at the project than to have to spend time decoding people's responses.

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The episodes should be paired. They used to be paired and then you suddenly change them. They didn't stop airing paired. They still air paired. They just aren't paired on Knowledge (XXG). Changing the numbers is not only a huge step in the wrong direction but your numbers make 0 sense. If you want to

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As I've pointed out above, the press releases reproduced at The Futon Critic pair episodes only for dates when they are air together, and even then not all the time. There are plenty of episodes listed individually. Note that "a" and "b" refer to production numbers, not episode numbers, but the fact

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You don't have a sufficient reason why they should be paired. Give me the sources instead of demanding them. Saying things like "The sources say that the episodes are paired so unless you can find sources that support your claim" do not help the discussion at all. If you don't give sources, then the

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I heard someone talking about Knowledge (XXG) and I told him about this he thought I was making something up. When he saw this not only did he stop using Knowledge (XXG) but he sent out an email to all his contacts about this. Silly edit wars like this give Knowledge (XXG) bad publicity. You can see

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What do you mean "26 to 46 episodes"? There are 47 episodes listed. The paired version makes no sense, numbering 1a, 2b, 3b, 2a, 4b, 4a, 1b, 5b etc. Somehow, out of 47 episodes, or what some refer to as "segments" this arrives at a final episode of 26b. With only 46 segments the final episode should

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Your response does not adequately explain why the numbering makes no sense. It seems to be supported by reliable sources and other experienced editors have explained why we don't pair episodes. That you disagree is no excuse for edit warring and I have now requested protection of the relevant pages.

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I don't know how long it's going to take for this to sink in but futon critic lists them paired so quit crying "your sources don't work" because you're not fooling anyone. How about some sources that support your exact numbers. Disney pairs episodes on the watch apps and everywhere else. Pairing is

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Here is something to laugh about. Your original source, The Futon Critic has the episodes numbered with a and b. I couldn't find the list on Zap2it. The new version of MSN makes it impossible to find anything. You have the TV guide. I don't know what you mean by various cable providers. Please give

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that they were both wrapped up with an opening credit sequence at the front of one, and a closing sequence at the end of the other, with nothing in between. This is how most paired cartoons air. If each cart is wrapped in an opening and closing sequence, then it would seem to me they were intended

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YOU CAN SAY THAT ALL YOU WANT BUT IT DOSN'T CHANGE THAT THEY AIR ON TV PAIRED!!! I have seen that on many animated series!! That is how they are numbered BUT if you want to change the rules DO IT RIGHT!! If you want to change the length of episodes because you can't be wrong CHANGE IT RIGHT!! Think

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When you resort to sockpuppetry, which you have done, to make it appear as though your perspective has more support, none of what you have argued need be considered. From our perspective, you are not interested in working collaboratively, rather, you are only here to assert your POV. The fact that

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I notice another issue: fabricated production codes. If two eps were paired, and the entire episode was called "number 402", then both carts should be numbered 402. We've got these Frankenstein numbering systems all over articles where we're taking the actual production code, 402, and appending As

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You are making big changes. I won't keep on taking you numbers off. They make sense. I don't want this to be an edit war. I just don't want the paired numbers to be taken away. You may not understand them but other people do. I'll put both numberings next time. If you take them off and we both get

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According to the above discussion, sources saying that the show is in season 5 are inaccurate ruling out MSN and TV Guide. The Futon Critic Shows A and B even when the episodes air separately making it a source supporting our numbers. Zap2it always pairs 11 minute episodes making it also a source

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Episodes aren't "only paired if they air on the same day", they're only paired if they always air that way, like Rugrats. In most situations that's not the case. If they're aired separately, or even paired with different episodes, as at Fish Hooks, they should be listed as individual episodes. I

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232A, 232B, 311A, 313A, 314B, 314A, 315A. These episodes are paired. On the Bs it puts both the A and B episode summaries. Disney considers the episodes paired. This isn't just for selling. It appears this way on watch apps too where you get the episodes free. The only sources that support this

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There are two conflicting perspectives on how the episode segments in this season should be organized. The series is generally considered a 22-minute program (30 mins w/ commercials), which in the past has usually paired two 11-minute carts (episode segments) into one half-hour episode. This

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On the contrary, putting "a" and "b" makes perfect sense. That's how the episodes appear on iTunes and everywhere else. Plus, it is common knowledge that two eleven minute segments are equal to one full-length 22-minute episode. That's how it works with almost every single animated show, be it

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I changed the episode numbering to the correct one. Using "A" and "B" and putting them in production order makes no sense. The Futon Critic shows episodes individually. That's one of the most reliable sources in the TV wikiproject. Jasonbres has been making them up, which is original research.

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This isn't about how the episodes are listed. This is about how they are numbered. It seems you have failed to provide 5 sources to support your numbers. You've provided a source that supports our numbers (The Futon Critic), a source that says it is in season 5 ( MSN) and 1 that supports your

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of the writers including the story writers and storyboard artists. To wipe them all out is simply saying they are not essential, when they are extremely essential. Plus, edit warring never solved anything. It just created more problems. Also, I'd say it's a pretty big deal that

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at this article. Because of this, and strong suspicions of sockpuppetry, I have again requested that all pages be protected. All of the articles are now fully protected until 25 December 2014. In the event that consensus is reached before then, the articles may be unprotected.

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In the Futon Critic, some of the segments have different pairings for production and airing, so they can't correspond to each other. Look at the July 5, 2013 airing for example; episode 404B and 407A are paired but they were produced at different times.

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The RfC is not over. I also did not evade my block. I was unaware of the policy. I say we add both numbers as a compromise. I see the reason for listing individually but I would like to see a source that lists the episodes individually and in season 4.

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Debate should occur in the discussion section, so please do not comment underneath someone's survey as this will only clutter the page. And remember, the point of these discussions is to find the best thing for Knowledge (XXG), not to "win". Thanks.

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blocked and you think about how you tried to stop the edit war so far you have done nothing. If you take them of even tough I left yours on then how are you going to stop the edit war. If you don't we'll just have to see what the other users do.

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Fish Hooks may have the wrong numbers and I will fix that but first I will fix this. It seems the only user wanting this is you but I am the third user saying no. You started an edit war by putting in some made up numbers. I am reverting.

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The episode numbering makes no sense. Why were these edits made. These are disruptive edits. You made some episodes count twice while others count half. You kept some episodes the same. I don't get why anyone would support these edits

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The Medianet websites show each episode individually. "A" and "B" ordering makes no sense because it implies that they are a two-part special. Per various talk page discussions, episodes only are paired if they air on the same day.

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We should close this discussion now. Its not going anywhere. Users are repeating previous statements or saying things without a reason The consensus is not to pair them. Anyone who disagrees with a GOOD reason, please speak.

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and Bs based on which cart aired first, and effectively creating new production codes. It's like answering the question, "what are Ashley and Mary-Kate Olsen's birthdates?" and returning: "June 13, 1986A, June 13, 1986B".

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is not the publisher - it's the publication (or website, or work if you prefer). At the bottom of the linked page we find "Copyright © 2014 Penske Business Media, LLC. All rights reserved."; the publisher is therefore

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There are plenty of episodes listed individually. Note that "a" and "b" refer to production numbers, not episode numbers, but the fact that the "segments" have different production codes make them different episodes.

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I became a user and put something in my sandbox to give you an idea of what I'm trying to say. I am not sure how I'm going to do it so I did it the same way as in the series overview. This is just to give you an idea

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and all of the season articles be protected due to edit-warring. Unfortunately, very soon after protection expired, an editor decided to edit-war at all articles. That editor is currently blocked for breaching the

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Let's leave the page the way it is for now. I did not put the episode in production # order. Counting each episode individually makes sense but they usually are on TV paired. I think we should put both numberings.

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filmed its 8th episode as the 2nd episode, but it was pushed back because they had so many changes to the script and other filming issues. We don't list it as the 2nd episode, because it didn't air in that order.

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FOR THE LAST TIME, EACH EPISODE IS PRODUCED AND AIRED INDIVIDUALLY!!! That's how animated series articles are numbered, and how they appear in other episode guides. Please stop edit warring or you'll get blocked.

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Also, The Futon Critic is not really a good source since it is a tertiary source that compiles news from other sources. A more reliable source would be either Disney Channel Media Net or Disney XD Media Net. -

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I have to ask you guys to stop. This back-and-forth is not helpful and it achingly reminds me of elementary school. We know that you're both at odds. Leave some room on the page for other editors to weigh in.

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For anyone as confused by Hits hits' post as I was, he has two each of 21, 22, 39, 44 and 45. I don't know what that is supposed to represent, as the episode list only shows 47 episodes, with no duplications.

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important user and if we can't get that it is right to block us because you are wrong. Let's see what the admins think. Thank you for reporting yourself. Their will be no more a & b. Maybe. Let's see

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I don't know what you mean by "Like user HH said 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,21,22,22,23,23... plus the episodes should be paired". Please explain WHY your numbering is better.

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Solution: Disney XD Press (disneyabcpress.com/disneyxd/phineas-and-ferb) pairs the episodes, therefore, the episodes should be paired. Sorry for not getting a comment in for half a year. MacVersions/

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If you hate a and b so much so now, who cares how they air on TV. Who cares how it is on other articles. Who cares what the right way to number it. Who cares how anyone else would do it. You are the

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I've created an RfC in the hope that other community members can weigh in. RfCs typically last 30 days. If you decide to add your thoughts, please do so in the Survey section with something like:

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The discussion is not closed. You have failed to provide reason for your changes. I have failed to see these edits as constructive. Provide 5 sources and if I can't then the discussion is over.

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What? Hits hits' numbering makes even less sense than the previous one. Why are there two of the same number? Are they one-hour specials? Even if they are, they generally are still one episode.

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That is the exact reason it does not make sense. It is making it harder for people to find information and it just proves that anyone can vandalize Knowledge (XXG) and not have it reverted

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SpongeBob, or Powerpuiff Girls, or Rocko, or Wander, or even Phineas. Also, if we keep edit warring, we will both get blocked, so please knock it off and talk like a civilized person. -

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No half hour episodes count as 2 because each episode is 15 minutes (now). The half hour episodes counted as one are represented by the duplicates. Did you even look at the link?

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Phineas and Ferb Season 5 is coming in April 2015 on Disney Channel and Disney XD.when-will.net/cartoons/254-when-is-phineas-and-ferb-season-5-coming-out-release-date-2015.html

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STOP IT! THATS IT, I AM REPORTING YOU TO AN ADMIN! FOR THE LAST TIME, EACH EPISODE IS INDIVIDUAL. THAT'S HOW THEY ARE LIKE ON ALL OTHER ARTICLES. I WILL NOT TELL YOU AGAIN!!!!!

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The original air date, number of viewers, and production code are in the wrong order in the table header as compared to the table itself. I cannot see how to fix it though...

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Half hour episodes don't count as two episodes unless they are aired as two episodes. If there is one set of credits there is one episode. It's really not rocket science. --

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His numbers don't make sense because 1 episode counts as 1 and the next 4 count as 1. This just proves that anybody can edit Knowledge (XXG) articles so they make no sense.

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that the "segments" have different production codes make them different episodes and so they should be listed separately. Both TV Guide and MSN list episodes separately. --

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My main problem is that you can clearly tell that you are doing it wrong. Let's start the beginning. Season 1: 26 to 46 episodes. 26x2=52 so where did you get the 46 from

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how discussion goes. Consensus isn't a vote, it's based on who has the stronger arguments. Vague arguments about how the current numbering is "weird" aren't constructive.

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If you wanted to change it so that each episode is 11 minutes than make them all 11 minutes. 22 & 44 minute episodes also count as 1 so this is not an explanation.

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And this common knowledge that the episodes are paired, is based on what, exactly? Show us the reliable source upon which you are deriving this information, please.

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Zap2it is not reliable in this situation as it's outdated. Whenever The Futon Critic uses "A" and "B", they are usually the production codes, not the airing order.

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This pairing episodes stuff makes no sense because the order they were paired is completely different from the actual production codes given by The Futon Critic.

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According to Xfinity TV Go and my Xfinity cable box, Phineas and Ferb is on Season 5. For example, Phineas and Ferb: Star Wars shows up as Season 5, Episode 13.

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The sources say that the episodes are paired so unless you can find sources that support your claim, the discussion will be closed supporting paired episodes.

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Zap2it shows the episodes individually. The Futon Critic pairs them only when they air together. Those are also the production codes. They have no point here.

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Stop making stuff up. The Futon Critic lists the episodes paired. All of the sources list them paired or in season 5 so either pair them or add season 5.

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disgree with Jasonbres' assertion regarding the Futon Critic. That website reproduces the press releases issue by the networs, which are authoritative. --

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I got an account to stop the changing IPs. All of the 107s are me. They are not all different users. I don't want make it look like I have more support.

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The RfC isn't even over. 30 days is the default but a conclusion has not been reached. I have a compromise: We add both numbers, true and individually

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Community input is requested to figure out if there is an intuitive and reasonable way to include this content when the various sources are at odds.

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that they are paired. It's that simple. Practically everyone knows that. If you close this discussion I can garentee you a new one will be created.

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1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,21,22,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,39,40,41,42,43,44,44,45,45,46,47

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It uses this numbering on other seasons. We are talking about all of the season articles. I thought you said that they are produced individually.

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that support the change you want to be made. I'm sorry, "Blogspot" is not a reliable source. Please provide one if reopening this request. —

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Because production order doesn't correspond to airing order. Episodes are only paired if they ALWAYS air together, like Nickelodeon shows.

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No. Pairing episodes makes no sense because it implies that they are two parts of one. The episode guides show each one individually.

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To all involved, it would be appreciated if you would please keep the discussion down here so we don't overwhelm the Survey section.

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and its affiliated companies on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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You are removing the RfC tag and saying we have reached consensus but also reverting my edits saying we have not reached consensus.

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1. Prove that The Futon Critic is showing production numbers. If they are shouldn't we number them the way they were meant to air.

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One side believes that episodes should be paired, even if the first cart aired days before what is presumed to be the second cart.

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Perhaps you should take your own advice. Futon Critic lists numerous episodes individually, even when they aired on the same day.

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you keep coming back to chatter about your POV doesn't make your POV any more legitimate. Let the RfC run its course, please.

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Like user HH said 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,21,22,22,23,23... plus the episodes should be paired.

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I mean that episodes should be counted by length like they were before. There should be 52 episodes in season 1 like he sad.

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I agree with closing the discussion. Users are either just saying things without reason, or repeating previous statements.

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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supporting our numbers. We have 2 sources. You have none. Your edits should be reverted unless you can find 3 sources.

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the official way to number it. I edit over cellular so I don't give away my home IP. I just realized that it changes.

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I agree with AussieLegend. I don't know why we are still arguing over this. It's simple, one episode is one episode.

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I agree. Episodes are paired. That is how they air on TV. Your numbers don't make any sense. Why shouldn't I revert.

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The other side believes the episodes should not be paired, but listed individually since they air on separate days.

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agree that the episodes should be paired. Can someone else make this edit. If I do, I will probably be blocked.

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keeps resorting to sockpuppetry and block evasion, all subsequent comments by his socks have been stricken out.

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They both do. We have 3 sources so don't say that we are being lazy and not finding sources. We found iTunes.

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You guys can continue your whining, but it won't change the consensus. I don't have time for this.

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TV guides are not appropriate sources. Every reliable source I could find lists them individually.

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strange new numbering system say it is in season 5. There are no numbering that support yours.

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I don't know how long it's going to take for this to sink in but futon critic lists them paired

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This discussion isn't going anywhere with these statements. We need more experienced editors.

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The users supporting paired episode can't provide accurate sources supporting their argument.

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You don't have sources. We have The Futon Critic and Zap2it. See my comment on your sources.

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The consensus is to number each episode individually. This stuff will just go on forever.

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They are paired in production to fill out a half-hour time slot but they air separately.

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http://sonofthebronx.blogspot.com/2013/11/disney-channel-disney-junior-and-disney_22.html

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Can we perhaps make the BG color of the infobox and tables slightly less obnoxious? --

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1. If they are produced individually then why do the production codes have A and B?

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make the episodes not counted with a and b then do it with numbers that make sense.

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Add ratings for "Steampunx". It received 1.703 million viewers. Here is my source:

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The numbering used to make sense. Now it's weird and confusing. Please fix this.

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Incorrect, the RfC is over. It expired a month after it started like most RfCs.

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It seems that this article is using colours in the infobox which don't satisfy

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They're paired to fill out a half-hour timeslot or they aired on the same day.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-hill/phineas-and-ferb-finale-l_b_7572040.html

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Because the numbers are out of order, we can only assume they are production.

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2. How do we know that these are the production numbers on the Futon Critic?

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Please replace the text ]{{disambiguation needed|date=November 2014}} with ]

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/series/phineas-and-ferb/seasons-episodes/AA4csBG

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Where did you get the production numbers from anyway? They are most likely

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I don't know what you mean by "provide links". Go be lazy somewhere else.

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Please provide links to the actual sources not Knowledge (XXG) articles.

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http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/phineas-and-ferb/episodes-season-5/289680

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The discussion is now closed. Each episode will be counted individually.

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3. ITunes pairs the numbers because that's the way it's supposed to be.

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season, Disney has aired a number of 11-minute carts by themselves.

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I don't want to hear that "We have 3 sources" stuff. Provide links.

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4. the only sources that support you say the show isbin season 5.

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That is inaccurate. The show is still airing its fourth season. -

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http://www.zap2it.com/tv/phineas-and-ferb/episodes/SH009488470000

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http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/phineas-and-ferb/listings/

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They are; they're just paired to fill out a half-hour time slot.

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http://www.zap2it.com/tv/phineas-and-ferb/episodes/SH009488470000

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http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/phineas-and-ferb/listings/

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Zap2it is not reliable in this situation because it's outdated.

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Disney considers the episodes paired such as on the watch apps.

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Please stop removing the story writers. If you take a look at

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Stop saying rubbish like "We have two sources". Give me them.

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Episodes are only paired if they air on the same day. See

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about how the episodes air on TV! DO THEY AIR SEPRETLY??!!

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No it doesn't. Stop edit warring or you will get blocked.

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Please explain why my numbers are "weird and confusing".

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How about some sources that support your exact numbers

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the article attached to this page, help out with the

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Really. Show me 5 sources listing the individually.

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