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When Taylor is running through the Human museum, he hides behind one of the "mannequins" while being chased. There's a close shot of the figure, and I could have sworn I saw its eye twitch! Was this intentional? Any trivia out there regarding the man who played this part? The opaque contact lenses he
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nothing is serious, it's about is entertainment. Actually, I think it was a poor job, because this movie was very significant, not to the culture of the time, but because it illustrates the future and emphasizes what will happen if our culture continues to desteriorate as it did in the 60's and 70's.
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I've always wondered what Taylor's & crew's INTENDED mission was (Taylor's "new Eve" comment, indicating a colonization intent, is just him being sarcastic- you don't sent ONE female & 3 males to colonize ANYTHING!). Remember, Brent's ship was sent to see what had happened to the first one.
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Honestly, it looked like the rifles were made-up, but not in a Sci-Fi way. If you think about it, the government knew about the faults of humanity, and guns are considered a fault. All they do is kill stuff. So, although I think they were made-up, they were not dissimilar to the modern guns of the
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Lines - Michael Clarke Duncan's character utters a version of Taylor's originally famous line "Get your hands off me, you damn dirty ape!", adjusted to "... damn dirty human!" - Charlton Heston's character Zaius, on his death bed, utters one of Taylor's famous lines, "Damn them! Damn them all to
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I have rewritten the lead in section removing information about the plot. I added several actor names. I discuss notable references from the production like writing the script as well as awards and being the first film franchise, and most important made it at least two paragraphs long.
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I never liked the term 'skipper' either. It sounds like Gilligan's Island. The problem is that Taylor is never addressed by rank (nor given a rank in the film). Nor is it ever directly said he is in command. That is inferred by the other astronauts calling him 'skipper'.
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