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But regions, when they were first introduced (mid 1900s I think) were traditionally aligned to ethnolinguistic groups, 12 in all: I - Ilocano, IV -Tagalog, V - Bicolano, VI - Ilonggo, VII - Cebuano, VIII - Waray, etc. Then NCR was formed, then CAR and ARMM,
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