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Psyopus have the relentless blast beats and dissonance of grind core yet they aren't as noisey and unpolished as it is often generally excepted by the elitist underground. In that same vein, some will say they are lacking the nessasry political view points associated with Grindcore. I disagree with the need for this to make it Grindcore but, it's a thought worth considering as well. But after considering anything about Pig Destroyer (with clean blasting and clean riffing) as Grindcore, one would also need to apply these traights to Psyopus, of coarse minus the fact that Psyopus songs are generally much longer and involve more music elements in them stylistically. This is where the "Grindcore" term merges into the "Avante Grind" definition. Psyopus has many charactistics of spazzy, noisy, blast beat mania yet, Psyopus have created it's own entity compared to other bands associated with Grindcore. The "Avante" would suggest Psyopus' experimental side when meshed with their "grindcore"-ish elements.
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Psyopus not stretching the bounds of the otherwise taken for granted mathmatical characteristics of general music? Time measures, tempos, arrangements - these variables in music are exploited mathmatically by the group - quite to the extreme and is arguabley a big part of what makes their sound - and for this I think a "mathcore" catagorization would be nothing less than on point.
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Mathcore half of the category. Mathcore you would seem to think of as music with "math" at it's "core". Now, arguabley someone in the mood to be argunmentive could say that 99.9% of music has math at it's core. So to better redefine what this mathcore must mean, I
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In case anyone is wondering about the recent bass player changes - My name is Travis Morgan. I just filled in as a session player for the last
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This band is pretty well-known in the "underground", so to speak. In their genre they're arguably the most technical band (and compared to most other genres) to exist, especially since releasing their second album. Their potential audience might not be big, but to delete this
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Mathcore? They have all the characteristics of mathcore, if you ask me (complexity, chaos, screams (core), etc.). They are often compared to DEP, Ion Dissonance, and others bands considered mathcore.
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