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1291:: "Delaware's term may cause some confusion, as some states, such as California, use this term to refer to nonprofit corporations." Hence, the search results for "Public-Benefit Corporation" and "California" are so voluminous, because those search results are referring to the more common non-profit entity of California, as opposed to Delaware's public benefit corporation structure. IMO, Knowledge can make a big impact in helping to clear up all of this confusion by educating its readers. Hope this helps! Best regards. 106: 81: 1166:. "Benefit Corporation" is a general term for any legal entity in any state that is required to balance the interests of shareholders with the public. "Public-Benefit Corporation" is the term used by the state of Delaware for benefit corporations organized under Delaware state law. In corporate law, the state of Delaware is probably more important than all other states combined, because most large American companies are organized under Delaware law. 164: 92: 288: 270: 208: 190: 218: 298: 50: 116: 21: 372: 354: 916: 491:
benefit corporation" is a IRC 501(c)(3) tax-exempt nonprofit corporation, while a "mutual benefit corporation" is a nonprofit corporation that is either not tax-exempt or is tax-exempt under some IRC section other than 501(c)(3). This article needs to be fixed to show that New York's definition is an unusual one. --
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CG: These articles should not be merged. A public benefit corporation and a B-Corp are quite different (at least in the U.S.). A Public Benefit Corporation, or sometimes just Benefit Corporation, includes a specific legal commitment in its State approved ByLaws. A B-Corp is any for-profit entity that
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It looks like the definition of "public benefit corporation" as used in this article reflects a definition unique to New York law (in the sense of implying that a public benefit corporation is essentially a form of state-controlled corporation). In many other states, including California, a "public
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Concur with User:Noaht2. I also want to belatedly voice my support at this point for User:Mastimido's sudden reduction of the article to two sentences. The better option would have been to expressly propose the reduction in advance, but it was clearly necessary because the existing article was an
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I believe is neutral, properly cited to legal scholars, and an improvement over the current page. My hope is that more impartial editors will consider using all or part of the draft to jump-start the page, at which point it might continue to improve through the normal incremental process. The draft
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also use the term "Public-benefit corporation". We will need to work to make our terms and distinctions clear to readers; it's obviously not clear even to us! I'd love to see an existing reference work discuss these organization types rather than depending on sources which merely discuss one or the
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I have finally done some preliminary research on InfoTrac OneFile and ProQuest eLibrary. It appears that the most common and neutral terms for a corporation owned by the government are "government corporation" and "government-owned corporation." In most U.S. states, a "public benefit corporation"
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is a type of for-profit corporate entity... that includes positive impact on society, workers, the community and the environment in addition to profit as its legally defined goals." These are organizations which seek to have beneficial social impacts and generate profit, but are
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is certified by the nonprofit B Lab. As described by B Lab, "Certified B Corporations are businesses that meet the highest standards of verified social and environmental performance, public transparency, and legal accountability to balance profit and purpose"
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utterly incoherent and unsalvageable mess. The only people with the advanced knowledge of comparative corporate law necessary to clean up such a mess are probably too busy serving their paying clients, so the next best option is to start over from scratch.
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The current version of the page already served the purpose of a disambiguation page, but was not using the style of a disambiguation page. I think in the new style it will be easier to use. I will move the examples of benefit corporations to the
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There is an entire other article about Benefit corporations. This article is indeed a mess and so I am deleting most of it, leaving the explanation that the term is used in at least two very different ways depending on the jurisdiction.
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to an organization which is not, however, directly managed or funded by the government. I'm not sufficiently educated in political theory to precisely define government authority or responsibilities, but it has something to do with
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The source material explains this, though not all that well. For example, Reuters says "'public benefit corporation,' a Delaware legal structure gaining attention among would-be financial reformers." Citation 5 in
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Four months later. Still a mess. Sad. Very sad. This is the classic example of an orphan article because everyone is too busy cleaning up other articles to clean it up. In my opinion it would be better to
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The underlying problem is that there is an irreconcilable split between jurisdictions over whether a "public benefit corporation" should be allowed to be for profit, or whether that very idea is an
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Wow, this article is still a mess. Unfortunately, I'm still way too busy with depositions and law and motion practice to deal with this. And my main Knowledge priority at the moment is fixing the
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I agree with the above edit. A Public Benefit Corporation in the United States must meet several considerations to be a B Corp. I would vote against merging these two articles.
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is simply a IRC 501(c)(3) tax-exempt nonprofit corporation that is run for the public benefit (but is not a government agency or even controlled or funded by the government).
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Merge but understand that a Public Benefit Corp is exactly the same thing as a Benefit Corp. In some jurisdictions Public Benefit Corps have quasi-govermental status.
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also helps elaborate the difference between public benefit corporations and some similar concepts that have their own Knowledge pages.
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There's been some confusion in these articles. Without checking the sources, I'm guessing American Prison Data Systems, mentioned in
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says on page 86: "(and most states) use the term 'benefit corporation' while Delaware employs the term 'public benefit corporation'"
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I am hesitant to delete other efforts, but this is a really bad article. I don't see anything worth saving - except the title.
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This article is primarily a American article. Other article exist in Knowledge with different titles meaning the same thing.
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While these seem similar at a glance, I think there is a difference we should strive to make more clear. Consider the
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thinks. (They cut the article down to two sentences.) If so, the article might as it is might as well be moved to
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In other words, "Public-benefit Corporation" is a type of benefit corporation adopted by the state of Delaware.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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I've read your draft and, although it explains the difference between a public-benefit corporation and a the
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There are plenty of potential citations for "Public-benefit corporation" & Delaware:
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Something is wrong with the linking of this page to the page in Hebrew - according to
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have an article like this, which is an incoherent mess, than to have it at all. --
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as the example of a Public-benefit corporation, established to "
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for "public benefit corporation" and California. --
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Okay, it's been three weeks and no one objected. --
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