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66: 21: 164: 143: 1235:, specifically "note that as a rule of thumb editors should only link the term's first occurrence in the text of the article." So "Sant Vicenç de Calders", which is a red link, is linked 5 or 6 times. It is ok to have one link in the lead, and the first link in the text, but the rest need to be de-linked. R13, which again is a red link, is linked 13 times in the table of stations. It should only be linked once. 1603: 1589: 1558: 1534: 1511: 1501: 1473: 1459: 589: 568: 540: 522: 460: 442: 424: 112: 941: 287: 1626: 1445: 1413: 1379: 1166:, I suggest "where trains run approximately every 10 minutes at peak times. All services converge on the section between El Prat de Llobregat and Barcelona Passeig de Gràcia stations, where the peak-time service frequency increases to 8 minutes. The overall service frequency reduces to the north of Barcelona, especially on the section north of Sant Celon..." or similar. 682: 178: 1028:
I will review. I will work through the article, making notes as I go, and returning to the lead at the end. Can I suggest that you mark issues that have been addressed with comments and maybe the {{Done}} template. I am not in favour of using strikethrough, as it makes the text difficult to read at a
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Like the rest of Rodalies de Catalunya lines, the R2 runs on the Iberian gauge mainline railway system, which is owned by Adif, an agency of the Spanish government. All of the railway lines carrying Rodalies de Catalunya services are electrified at 3,000 volts (V) direct current (DC) using overhead
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As part of the renomination process, I created a "History" section to include the information in the lead into the body, reorganising the "Operation" section, which contained information that may be considered to be "History". I also included the lead's ridership figures in the article's body
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Like a lot of articles this one jumps straight past the information in the lead, basically treating it as part of the body. It jumps right past telling us what the R2 actually is. Tip - write the body of the article as if the lead is not part of the article. it should be a supplement, not a
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we are coming up on the end of the 7 day period, about 24 hours or so before I would consider closing this as failed if no activity is seen. Now if you start working on this and need more time I have no problems keeping it open longer to get the improvements worked in. Just let me know.
1120:"Terminus" needs to be plural, since it refers to two stations, and the "calling at all stations" clause does not link to anything. Suggest "with Sant Celoni or Maçanet-Massanes stations serving as their northern termini, in order from south to north. These trains call at all stations." 393: 1725:
It has now been eight weeks, and no progress has been made to address the issues raised by this review. I am therefore failing it. You can re-nominate it in due course, but please make sure that the issues raised above are addressed before doing so. Regards.
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That is the review completed. Do let me know if anything is not clear. I have had fun trying to understand the Catalan sources. I will put the article on hold. You normally have 7 days to address the issues, but that is negotiable if you are making progress.
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I cannot understand what this means, and I have read and re-read the rest of that paragraph, to try to work out how it can be improved. "Offered" is not a good word choice, and nor is "as the line moves away from Barcelona". For the text starting
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Hi there. I don't like exposing my daily life on Knowledge, but I've been very busy these past two weeks with my college exams. Looks like I won't have time to edit Knowledge before the summer holidays. Thank you anyway for the review.
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Does not read well. Suggest "From its creation until 2009, the R2 had retained its original line scheme with no branch lines, using Maçanet-Massanes and Sant Vicenç de Calders stations as its northern and southern
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If Google translate is right, then the ref says "a total of 261 trains per workday circulate on the R2." The numbers are transposed, but this suggests that it is the number of trains, rather than the number of
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lines. The R2 operates on a total line length of 133 kilometres (83 mi), which is entirely double-track, except for the single-track section between El Prat de Llobregat and Barcelona–El Prat Airport stations.
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Sentence is poorly constructed. Suggest "The rest of the services on the R2 run between Castelldefels and Granollers Centre, calling at all stations, and do not terminate at the airport or at EstaciĂł de
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Since its creation until 2009, the R2 had preserved its original line scheme with no branch lines, using only Maçanet-Massanes and Sant Vicenç de Calders stations as its northern and southern terminus,
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R2 trains will continue to use the AragĂł Tunnel in central Barcelona with the new line scheme, which is currently not possible due to the configuration of the southern rail accesses to Barcelona Sants.
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Terminus should be plural, but it would read much better as "The line originally had no branches, running between Sant Vicenç de Calders in the south and Maçanet-Massanes in the north." or similar.
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This would read better if all series were introduced in the same way, so "the 463, 464 and 465 Series, ..., the 447 Series, the 450 Series and the 451 Series electrical multiple units (EMU)."
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The rest of the services on the R2 run between Castelldefels and Granollers Centre, calling at all stations, so that they do not terminate neither at the airport nor at Estació de França.
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Hi. I was wondering how you are doing. It has now been over six weeks since the article was put on hold, and there are no obvious signs of progress. Perhaps you can let me know. Thanks.
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There are quite a few red links, but nothing looks like it could not possibly become an article. Basically if R2 can be created and sourced I would say any of those could be too.
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Hello there. I'm sorry for not having replied. I have been very, very busy for the past few months. Perhaps I'll try to re-nominate it some time soon. Thank you for your review.
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I have been able to check most of the references, as they are online, and while they generally support the text as written, there are just a few that need some attention.
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The line originally had no branches, with Sant Vicenç de Calders and Maçanet-Massanes serving as its only southernmost and northernmost terminus, respectively.
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This is used to support the length of the line as 133 km, but the document says 130.7 km. Other refs use 133km, so you may want to use one of those instead.
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Offered is not a good word here. Suggest "In 2009, it took over the service previously provided by Barcelona commuter rail line R10." or similar.
1114:"On the other hand" implies an alternative opinion, and so is not appropriate here. Suggest leaving it out. So, "All services running north..." 1309:
The lead should introduce the subject, and summarise the main points of the article. It does this reasonably well. The are a couple of issues.
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Look to be reliable, albeit a bit primary for a lot of the info, but train lines probably don't get a ton of press in the New York Times ;-)
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I have finished reviewing the text. Do let me know if anything is not clear. I will move on to reviewing the references next. Back soon.
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with Sant Celoni or Maçanet-Massanes stations serving as their northern terminus, in order from south to north, calling at all stations.
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I like to get this checked out first, I have found issues using this that has led to quick fails so it's important this passes muster.
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As Knowledge is an international encyclopedia, it should mention the country in which it is located, preferably in the first sentence.
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All citations should be in the body of the text, if they cite facts only in the lead these facts should be put in the body too.
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No problen. As I said, the timescale is negotiable, as I know we all live busy lives, and Knowledge is a spare-time activity.
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I cannot find this information in the reference (though I may be wrong). Ref 14 supports Iberian gauge (1668 mm) and 3000V DC.
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I'll try to work everything out this very afternoon (Central European time) because I won't be able to the following days.
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This makes R10 too personal. Suggest "On 31 January 2009, services were suspended on the R10, which linked..." or similar.
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On 31 January 2009, the R10, which linked Barcelona–El Prat Airport to Barcelona's Estació de França, suspended services.
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Update: I won't be able to edit the article until next week. I would be very grateful if you could give some more days.
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Again too personal. Suggest "Services on the R10 were initially scheduled to resume two years later." or similar.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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https://sede.fomento.gob.es/NR/rdonlyres/4A8F0821-A4B6-4EB0-9F1C-BF4100B2BF77/68661/Ayuda_lineas_Estaciones.pdf
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The R2 had an annual ridership of 33.6 million in 2016, achieving an average weekday ridership of 125,948...
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If they cannot use it at the moment, how will they continue to use it in the future? Clarification needed.
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the 463, 464 and 465 Series, ..., 447 Series, 450 Series and 451 Series electrical multiple units (EMU).
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the term PK should be put in a key or something to spell it out the first time the abbreviation is used.
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Some of the services terminating at the airport also use Granollers Centre as their northern terminus.
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Alright I will be picking up the review of this one - both for the Wiki Cup and the GA cup as well.
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Furthermore, they consist of double-decker cars, becoming the only type of bilevel rolling stock...
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Not sure why there is a list of services outside of the table? Why not include them in the table?
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The first trains run about 5:00 in the morning, with the latest arriving at about 1:00 at night.
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The line's activity gathers on its southern section, between Vilanova i la GeltrĂş and Barcelona
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This is a 66-page pdf file, and needs a page number, as you have done for refs 15 and 17.
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In 2009, it took over the service offered by Barcelona commuter rail service line R10.
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The average ridership is only in the lead, should be mentioned in the body too.
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where an approximate peak-time service frequency of 10 minutes is offered...
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I renominated the article since I adressed most of the issues stated above.
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the trains used on the line operate a total of 216 services every day.
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Ref 7(a) Línia R2 sud St. Vicenç de Calders - Barcelona E. França...
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The R10 was initially scheduled to resume services two years later.
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Poor grammar. Suggest "...which make up most of the services..."
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According to this project, the current R2 will be extended...
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later date, and it is an important record of the GA process.
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whilst the 451 Series runs only either on R2 Sud services...
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Suggest "...either in the early morning or late at night..."
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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Normally, the 450 Series runs only on R2 Sud services...
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at the time (March 18, 2016). There are suggestions on
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a new underground route in L'Hospitalet de Llobregat.
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