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is embroiled in a fascinating dilemma: the sheriff of a major city grabs his wife's arm, the case is blown out of proportion, he does time (1 day) in the jail he supervises as sheriff, he is relieved of his duty, and he is brought before the city's ethics commission. This fascinating story has been covered in New York, London, and Tokyo newspapers. Anyhow, whether you think a biographical article on
Knowledge should devote itself mostly to what makes the subject notorious or should devote itself to trivialities, please consider restoring the bit about Mirkarimi being suspended to the first paragraph, since he is no longer sheriff, and likewise consider restoring the paragraph in which he describes his ordeal in his own words. I think the subject himself deserves a say in this matter.
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because 1) it caused a major and unprecedented disruption in the hearings in which Ed Lee left the room in the middle of his questioning by a
Mirkarimi attorney, 2) had a bomb gone off it would be a historic and horrific event, 3) bomb threats are a federal offense and should the source of this threat be exposed, another major news event would emerge, the least of which would be the intent of the threat. Each of these points could impact the final ruling of the Commission as well as the credibility of the Mayor's case. If you are going to include the fact that hearings are happening, and details about them, this is a key detail to include. If you need to edit it down, fine, but it should not be totally removed.
1255:"What does the bomb threat have to do with Lee possibly perjuring himself?" Read the news articles and the descriptions by people who were there -- the decision to clear the room came immediately following the question put to Ed Lee of whether he consulted with any of the city supervisors about his decision to use the Ethics Commission to investigate Mirkarimi, and he said no. Others claim that he consulted Sup. Olague. If she were admit that, or if proof emerged, that would be perjury. Perjury is a felony. Several newspapers are commenting on the perjury, including SF Chron and SF Examiner. Read the articles, there is a lot going on which is historical.
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work. Instead we've hung this badge of shame to weigh the entire biography down. It's debatable how notable those initial charges are but they certainly don't need to be advertised as the introduction to him, oh by the way he beats his wife ... no. All those apparently hyper-notable and serious charges were so serious that they were dropped? Please. Report in the article summary only what he was found guilty on and the it was part of a plea bargain. And include his own opinion on this farcical attack on his character. "Runaway train of innuendo" is exactly what it appeared to be. Tabloidy is also accurate. It was a low point in SF politics.
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not perjury. Almost any City is going to try to promote a case for 'interest waning' in whether their Mayor lied or not -- it would be strange if they didn't -- but the events that led to the accusations occurred in the middle of the hearings on Ross
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1615:"This is a bombshell, and it really could bust open the hearing," said Peter Keane, a professor and dean emeritus at Golden Gate University Law School and a former member of the Police Commission. "If the mayor lied on a material question, that goes to his credibility" in asserting that he decided "in a good-faith way" to get rid of Mirkarimi.
1074:. Mirkarimi's ban on plastic bags also made national and international headlines but there is not an over-the-top blow by blow account of every allegation on both sides. Additionally, I'm not sure why his support of marijuana legalization but not his ban on plastic bags, which was internationally recognized, is in the opening paragraph.
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2172:, you have to discuss these changes, especially since the version you found came about through long discussions that you can see on this talk page. Nobody's trying to "hang him" for what happened. Though he didn't "kick puppies or kill someone", he was charged with beating his wife, and especially for a Sheriff, that's serious.
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Fascinating that you only notice and must remove what is supportive, and within minutes, but never noticed things up there for MONTHS. I've already removed it. That was the ex that said "he bruised my arm". How original. The Chron published that but refused to publish the piece by Evelyn Nieves as
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The idea that it changed the course of he case is your own. Furthermore, this isn't about Ed Lee -- it's about Mirkarimi. Again, as I said earlier, if there is merit to these charges of Lee committing perjury, we can include it. But as of now it's just a charge that the Mirkarimi defense floated, and
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I don't understand why the quotes were removed. Shouldn't the subject of the article be able to speak in his or her own words? If a Wiki editor "just says what happened," as you suggest he or she do, that editor is interpreting actions and words. Letting the subject speak provides better, unfiltered
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I went through and cleaned up the Supervisor section quite a bit - parts it were in pretty rough English, and then a lot of it was either untrue, or at least unsourced in its praise of Mr Mirkarimi. I've got no beef with the man, but comparing the referenced sources with the article's claims left a
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Look, I don't want to get in a pissing match with you, but it's obvious that this is a subtopic pertaining to Lee, not a subject for a Mirkarimi article, and futhermore, I am in no way convinced that the "case" as you call it (it's a hearing, not a case) was influenced by this perjury accusation. I
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I respectfully disagree. Mirkarimi's domestic abuse allegations made national and international headlines, and continues to make them. The only other time this obscure San Francisco politician made the national news was when, as a supervisor, he passed legislation banning plastic bags in SF. Now he
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I have an issue with how you remove the actual initial charges. They were dismissed, but in the historical context of his career, it's notable that those were the initial charges. As to when he was suspended, you're right that he was suspended after the plea. The way it was written is not clear on
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Also the 2015 re-election campaign sentence? TOTALLY WRONG with pov source, presented as slander! I corrected that. This guy made a mistake, he didn't kick puppies or kill someone. Why are we trying to hang him for one incident years ago and dismiss his lifetime of changing politics in California?
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With respect, I removed the paragraph about Mayor Ed Lee supposedly committing perjury. If this belongs anywhere, it's in Ed Lee's article. It appears that the perjury business was a strategy on the part of Mirkarimi's lawyers to discredit Lee. Neither the D.A. or the Ethics committee members have
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Yes, being in a building when a bomb threat is called in is not particularly relevant. If a bomb were to go off, that would be huge news, but obviously that didn't happen. If the bomb threat specifically pertains to Mirkarimi, that's a different story. But there's no proof of that. The sources you
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That sure sounds like your editorializing. News sources also pointed out that the entire three-ring circus was orchestrated for political leverage against him and others associated with him. We seem to gloss over developments since then like how he and his wife are perfectly happy and his ongoing
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I will determine whether or not the tag should stay up. After all, the tag says "An editor has expressed a concern...". With some of the unnecessary detail and excessive quotes that add nothing, I still think this page suffers from undue weight, though we've made progress in cutting it down. This
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When will the tag be removed? The editor who put it there says he doesn't have the time to look to see if there is still undue weight, but won't allow it to be removed. This is a concern. The vast majority of the text originally on the page was removed already and the event itself is ongoing.
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A bomb threat is irrelevant to a person in a public building in which it happens? A bomb threat means someone could have been killed -- and the other 900 people, who were in the building -- including Mikarimi and the Mayor of the San Francisco. This hardly seems minor. News media reported it
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shown any interest in pursuing it. We seem to be committed to cutting the Ethics hearing part of the Mirkarimi article down. In that spirit, this paragraph should be removed, as it pertains mostly to Lee, not to Mirkarimi. If it does turn out Lee is accused of perjury, we can put it back in.
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In practice, many articles have an "Early life" section first, discussing the individual's heritage and formative years, then have a "Personal life" section describing personal developments of greater recency after career-related sections. Perhaps that "Personal life" section should be split
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Perhaps we should be utilizing what news sources are saying now about the incident rather than leaning on what was said 2-3 years ago. Pinning the charges rather than what he was actually found guilty of is a bad editorial decision on Knowledge's part. The only ones trying to claim he is a
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I'm not insinuating -- I'm asking how many bomb threats have you ever known of where only one person was removed from the threatened area? That basically says that there was no bomb threat, but they took the mayor away anyway, and no one else. That response was unprecedented and bizarre.
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Supervisor Mirkarimi is in a domestic partnership with Evelyn Nieves, a reporter for AP. He's very quiet about it, and has stated several times in the media that he is "single" and lives only with a rescue dog and cat. This is really odd, if you ask me, but nontheless, he has been in this
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I think so too, but the version that's there now is a little too blow-by-blow for the lead, which should be in a summary style. In my opinion it's too long as well, giving the incident undue weight. How about cutting it back in length and amount of detail? Here's my suggestion for a new
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Just as many people, and more importantly reputable sources also counter the rather hatchet job being done to Ross. Perhaps more people should be looking at the changes that were made that seem incredibly tabloid, and look to having a better written, more accurate, and less POV
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I do not see any false or inaccurate information or POV phrases, MoneyHunny. These are all sourced. Why move biographical information into the introductory paragraph? This is why I reverted your edits which, moreover, obscure the work of the many editors who came before you.
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I think Muboshgu did a pretty good job of whittling down the article. He took out some flavorful quotes, but other than that, I approve his/her edits. (I prefer having people speak in their own words to the "just the facts ma'am" approach). The bomb threat doesn't belong.
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I'm not sure why the opinion of one of the nation's most prominent legal entities, the National Lawyers Guild, is considered "meaningless" when an elected official is suspended by a mayor. That suggests that the Guild is a meaningless organization.
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Why is the majority of this section devoted to Mayor Ed Lee's alleged "perjury." This should describe the hearings as they relate to the subject. I put some Mirkarimi quotes in this section. I also put in a counterbalance to the perjury in charge.
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Can you point out anything specific that you feel is false/inaccurate, or blatant POV? I think the sentence "Waves of support for both suspending him from, and keeping him in office were noted in nearly daily coverage" is a massive POV violation.
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This is the same woman who wrote issues of the Huntress comic book. Its come out in a KTVU news story this day, presumably will get print coverage. he claims that Madisons charges against him are fiction, driven by her characters style of
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Again, I ask, why the blond woman? This is a minor incident at a public hearing. The other woman testified under oath. She belongs. The "blond woman," whose name is not known and who did not give her name, doesn't belong in this article.
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