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just finished rewriting the artcle. i am still unhappy about the content, though. still sounds like it was written by his agent, or PR - guy. for someone who has changed labels so frequently, the article doesn't go on to explain why, but rather focuses on rather obscure top 10 -20 -30 -40 positions
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If you read my move request, you would see that I think "Ray
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Googling "Ray Stevens", I did not find any
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Stevens' song "Unwind" being a minor hit is incorrect. It was a #3 hit in either 1968 or 1969 from the Barnaby label album "Even Stevens." Also, his hit song "Night Games" was not on the same album as the "Shriner's Convention" hit song.
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in different sales charts. i'd like to see a more straightforward writing style - perhaps someone more familiar with the subject might help out? also, i agree that his fairly recent fame in the right-wing community needs to be covered in more detail.
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I changed it to 18, based on â24Jan 1939â, and âfirst recorded for Prep Records in 1957â matching (my) Joel Whitburn BBTop40. He mightâve signed at 16 (in 1955) (and first recorded in 1957), or mightâve been born in 1941.
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