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So it's a fail for now. Keres🌑, if you want to bring the article to GA, I think that History, Production, and Modern applications needs copyediting and revision of sources used. The article is not bad, but it's a bit neglected and needs some attention. If it would be done, I think it would pass next
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It has 6 images, and on 1920x1080 these are overflowing into the "production" section. I think this is a bit too many for that section to the point of disrupting readability, given not all the images are mentioned in text. Not sure how they could better be split up without removing a couple, though.
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This level of detail more likely belongs in the hazards section where it isn't covered. The hazards section already has one case study, maybe all the case studies of hazards should go in the hazards section? I think, either keep all the case studies in the hazards section, or rewrite it so it only
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Been a bit over a week, I can see some things have been fixed and but I'm not sure about the timeframe for the rest of my recommended changes. If you think you can make the rest of the changes within a week or so I'll keep the review on hold until then, otherwise I'll probably have to fail it.
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Their exposure to radium caused serious health effects which included sores, anemia, and bone cancer. This is because the body treats radium as calcium and deposits it in the bones, where radioactivity degrades marrow and can mutate bone
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On second look I now notice that the shorthand forms are from the bibliography section. Did not realise that at first. So please make a separate section and the appropriate templates for both the Kirby and Greenwood books.
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A number of chemicals are missing wikilinks: 237Np, and the isotopes on the density chain description. Only need a wikilink for its first usage. I can see from the chemistry section onward they are wikilinked well.
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Salutsky, M.L. & Kirby, H.W. THE RADIOCHEMISTRY OF RADIUM, report, December 1, 1964; United States, University of North Texas Libraries, UNT Digital Library; crediting UNT Libraries Government Documents
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A quick glance suggests that the boiling point is also a contentious value; for example this source claims a boiling point of 1140C different to what is currently in the article's infobox and description:
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With over 85+ references to all reputable and reliable sites, this article maintains a high level of verifiability, along with having exact dates and times for every single stated period, it is all around
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This seems to cover all aspects that anyone would ever need to know about the Radium. Along with that, it seems to have exact information about temperatures and interaction periods that help everyone.
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will not be able to continue the review. The nomination status is being changed to "2nd opinion" in the hopes of finding a new reviewer to take over the review. Thank you to whoever steps up.
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Hello, I will be reviewing this article. I'll base this initially off of the previous review, then go from there on the rest of the article. Expect comments within a week. --
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Added wikilink, there is no article where this is discussed in more detail, added image for king plot, added ref for xofigo, added wiklink, and removed subsection.
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congener, barium: Try to separate two wikilinked expressions with something not wikilinked, or else it looks like a single link without hovering/selecting it.
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I'm going to fail the review now. Feel free to open it again when you are able to spend more time on it, and I'm happy to pass when above things are fixed.
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I am not exactly an expert on wikipedia citations, but shouldn't the shorthand cite be in a different section using a special template, as described
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could use translation too, making that page is not required to pass review though. Not sure if it is notable enough to include at all as an image.
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Can you mark a page number for this? I was not able to verify it in the first few pages of citation 82. Same for a couple other large books.
224:"Both values are encountered in sources and there is no agreement among scientists as to the true value of the melting point of radium." 602: 310: 259:, This is short and could be expanded. You could explain on the shapes of other nuclei, and expand on how and why 224 is pear shaped. 832:
Summarise applications in the "modern applications" section which have overtaken historical applications, eg. industrial radiography.
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I agree the article is very good, still a few things to change as per my feedback. As far as I can tell copyediting is fine now,
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as for expanding/revising sources I am still reviewing this and will edit that in along with a review result in a day or two.
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in vogue: figure of speech, (I have never heard of this expression before for example) -- better to just say "fashionable"
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9 instances of use "today". One instance of "currently". Would be more accurate to say when the practice started (eg. for
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For the image File:Památník_objevu_radia_v_Jáchymově.jpg, I question if the statue is notable enough compared to say,
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Would be good if there was a see also template for where this is discussed in more detail, if such an article exists.
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The neptunium isotope 237Np: Referring to single elements it seems more clear to name it first to unfamiliar readers.
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Atomic, molecular, and optical physics research: Remove subsection title since it's the only one, and pretty wordy.
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This article does a good job directly working on maintaining a neutral view, and providing compelling information.
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What is a king plot? Maybe this is obvious to natural scientists, but not to me. If possible an image would help.
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Add wikilink for standard model of particle physics, discuss alternative models radium has been used to study.
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All other known radium isotopes: How many? Maybe better to say "The remaining x known radium isotopes..."
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All images and media seem to be sourced from the Knowledge Commons or a reputable site, so it's all clear.
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Xofigo is not 223Ra, according to citation 76 it also contains sodium chloride and other ingredients.
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Seems fine. Content was copied in the past to a couple of other sites which earwig flagged.
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Putting the review on hold for issues to be fixed. Will look at it again in a week.
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Amazing article, covers all information possible about Radium and it's properties.
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Great scientific article which covers almost all necessary information about this.
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Today, 226Ra is considered to be the most toxic of the quantity radioelements, ...
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or similar organisations for exposure limits? If there isn't, say that too.
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Second opinion requested in the hopes of finding reviewer to take over
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The isotope 223Ra (under the trade name Xofigo) was approved by...
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and this source suggests the boiling point is uncertain too:
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Kirby et al. citations: Is it referring to this citation?
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Monument to the X-ray and Radium Martyrs of All Nations
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which already has an english wikipedia article. Maybe
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formerly: Better to specify a date range here instead.
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Just a friendly reminder that the review has started.
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Found at page 238 of ref 83, and information added.
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