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aware of the technology. Carpenter had recruited a young technician from the
Prussian State Railways whose name was Georg Knorr. Knorr later became the owner of Carpenter's company and renamed it Knorr Brake (Bremse, in German). The K-B company went on to develop the quintessentially European equipments (the previous contributor has named some of them)... but the original concept should be acknowledged as having post-dated the work Westinghouse (and certain others) had already done. The 'graduated release' functionality of European equipment was always possible because European freight trains were short where American freight trains were getting longer all the time. The inapplicability of the Westinghouse triple valve to graduated release (the European practice) was always acknowledged by Westinghouse. So really, all air braking derives in some way from the Westinghouse developments 203.153.205.105 (talk) 10:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
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Valve) is set to say 90 psi. Your ER pressure (Equalizing
Reservoir) is then automatically 90 psi. Your BP (Brakepipe) is uaually a pound less at 89 psi. A MIN reduction (Minimum reduction) is reducing ER to 83 psi. BP will follow to within 1 psi of ER. You should get a BC (Brake Cylinder) application of between 7 psi - 13 psi (depends on the railroad). A Full Service application or Lap is a reduction of ER to about 63 psi, with BP within a pound of ER. BC increases to about 63 psi also. Emergency application is when BP is immediately reduced to 0 psi, with ER following more slowly to 0 psi. BC will increase to 73 - 78 psi. There is up to a 1 minute wait before you can recover the Emergency. 15 yrs testing this stuff!
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portion of the dual-compartment) reservoir TO the brake cylinder, and an INCREASE of brake pipe pressure causes the air to EXHAUST FROM the brake cylinder and also to RECHARGE the reservoir. Upon second observation (the need for which is why I'm NOT trying to edit the article right now), the bulleted list near the beginning of the overview section is an excellent start, but I still think it may not be clear to normal folks exactly the way the air flows through the system. (If someone could come up with an animation, that would be absolutely killer!)
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operate in the "push" mode). Similarly, the longer "pull linkage" that connects to the lever directly connected to the cylinder should do so lower down, and *below* a (similarly missing) pivot, in order to actually act as a pull not a push, and so properly activate the brakes on its end of the carriage or truck. The picture is probably 10+ years old now (given edit dates and the software used), and was apparently copied from something drawn up in 1969... it's probably overdue a bit of retrospective proof reading.
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pivot around the green rod until the left brake shoe contacts the left wheel. At that point, as the blue rod continues pulling toward the brake cylinder the 14/7 arm will pivot around the left brake shoe, pushing the green rod to the right and forcing the right brake shoe against the right wheel. With all the slack taken up pressure will now start to be applied to the wheels by both brake shoes.
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to work (as this system appears to) is not fully fail-safe and can still be knocked out by anything that prevents that positive action happening. What you need is a passive backstop, such as the aforementioned spring which needs at least some minor positive pressure to defeat and keep the brakes off...? Surely such a modification must have been made sometime in the last 100+ years??
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488:- as one who works in the business (incidentally, also kind of a pendant, too—I guess if we weren't we wouldn't be on Wp, much less commenting on a talk page!) I'd love to see a crisp distinction between BP & the electrical signals you mention (those in the MU cable.) Unfortunately, I don't find things as crisp as you say. For example, the term
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equalizes the pressures between the service portion of the dual-compartment reservoir and the brake cylinder. An emergency application results in an equalization of both the service and emergency portions with the brake cylinder, making the total air pressure in the brake cylinder around 73 psi, I think--I have the chart out in my car.
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interconnections. I've heard the usage "trainline air" to refer to locomotive main reservoir pressure being conveyed to cars (e.g., for dual pipe brake systems, pneumatic door operators, etc.), but never for the brake pipe itself. We should try to keep the terminology in line with customary railroad practice.
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supplying air for that cylinder. The reservoir pressure should always be at least 7 bar, so if it drops significantly the spring will push the piston forwards, acting on the linkage of the usual disc brake mechanism. When fully deployed this gives the equivalent force of a Brake Step One application,
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If the design was changed as you propose then it would require the handbrake to release the brake not apply it. This would make switching without air incredibly slow as each handbrake would have to be applied(or released depending on how you view the action) to allow the car to freely roll. In short,
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Already in 1959 the "KE.1a" brake control unit was able to apply gradual brake release by proportional control of the brake to the cylinders and also preventing the auxiliary reservoir to run empty by using a secondary equalizing reservoir used as "pressure imprint": in this way only if the auxiliary
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Not to be overly pedantic about it, but "trainline" is a single word—not "train line." However, what is being referred to in the article as a "train line" is in reality the "brake pipe," which is two words.  :-) Generally speaking (in North
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To someone not familiar with the system, I wonder if it's all too confusing. I think we need to reorganize and/or rewrite it so that a lay person can understand the mechanism behind how it works--in other words, that a REDUCTION in brake pipe pressure creates a TRANSFER of air FROM the (U.S.: service
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Note that the 10/5 arm actually anchors to the truck frame, not the carbody (as drawn). The 14/7 arm can't anchor to anything since it needs to be free to move as the truck rotates in curves. Altho you can't see it in a 2D picture, the 14/7 arm is actually angled diagonally across the truck (right
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American Freight Air Brakes, not EP. Brakepipe pressure can range from 0 psi - 110 psi. China can be 500 kpa (73 psi) or 600 kpa (87 psi). Typically North American freight is 90 psi (except where it isn't!) The way the system works is ELV (Emergency Limiting
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One does not need to go all the way to 65 psi to get an application, the further you reduce the brake pipe the more force generated on the brakes, just like your car brakes can be on a little or a lot. Westinghouse only guaranteed an emergency application if there was a minimum of 38(have to confirm
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Related to this, the dual compartment reservoir's service and emergency portions (at least in the U.S.--I wish I knew more about how we compare to other countries!) have 2500 cm^3 and 3500 cm^3 of capacity, respectively. The brake cylinders hold 1000 cm^3 of air. Because the reservoirs hold the same
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of the word 'train' where the writer actually means 'rail' or 'railway' is like a father telling a young child "Look at the big train" when they are pointing to a locomotive. It's OK for the kids but it's Thomas The Tank Engine stuff... it's naff and it has no place in in this section of
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Within the global railway industry, the term 'trainline' (one word) is internationally accepted and understood. It refers to a connection (pneumatic or electrical) that is carried between vehicles in a train. It does not refer to a 'rail line' (a line of railway) as has been suggested here. The use
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To whit: the "push linkage" between each wheel brake lever looks like it should be higher up on the 14" levers, and particularly *above* some (missing) fixed pivot point on the frame, otherwise when the brake is applied on one wheel, it will be pulled away from the other (and the linkage will not
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Cables that link the trainlines of one car to another (or one locomotive to another) are often called "jumpers," such as the 27-pin MU cables that join locomotive control systems together. Similar jumpers are used to convey hotel (head end) electrical power back to passenger cars, link automatic
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Here in the USA, we occasionally use the word "line" to refer to a railroad, although seldom with the word train. In North America, any railroader, upon hearing the word "trainline," will immediately think about electrical interconnections that run the length of the train. The same term has the
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back in the '60's or '70's. I would like to see a bit more information on the triple valve. I have a difficult time imagining just how this part works (and a cutaway drawing in the magazine article did not help much). In addition, cluth's entry, above, introduces a new question for me. Is the
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Well, i don't know how it work on US railroads, but for standard long european freight train (~700m) full braking (reduction from 5 bar to 3.5 bar) takes really several seconds. I think that 10-20 seconds for full brake is normal, I doubt that more than that would be acceptable. I don't have any
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I've changed a couple references by changing "www.sdrm.org" to "www.sdrm.info", as the latter appears to have a copy of the old sdrm.org/psrm.org website. Is this acceptable, should other parameters in these citations be adjusted, or should these just point to the copy at the wayback machine (if
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Anyway since it seems to be confusing, here's how it works. Looking at the left truck, assume the brakes are released, and the brake shoes are hanging free of the wheel. Now as the brakes are applied, the blue rod at the top will pull toward the brake cylinder. This will cause the 14/7 arm to
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Beg to disagree, somewhat. Continental European air braking originated with an American expatriate, Jesse Carpenter, who lived in Russia and developed an air brake arrangement for the Prussian State Railways. This occurred after the 'invention' by George Westinghouse so Carpenter would have been
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There's a lack of contents on this article: mainly the problem is that only the Westinghouse brake system used in the US is explained. Here in Europe Knorr Bremse was the pioneer of brake equipment and already in the early 50s was developing a new generation of Control Valves different from the
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Regarding what type of braking system may be used, it depends on your definition of "train." If you include subway or elevated trains used in metropolitan rapid transit systems (what we Yanks often refer to as the "el" or "L"—the former a New York City term, the latter a Chicago term) into the
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Various service reductions cause various amounts of air to transfer to the brake cylinder. For example, a minimum service application, which (in the U.S.) reduces the brake pipe pressure by ~5 psi, transfers a small amount of air to the brake cylinder, while a full-service reduction (~20 psi)
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relatively constant pressure (the brake pipe pressure, of course, varies according to how the engineer manipulates the automatic brake). By the way, air connections between locomotives are generally called MU hoses—their function relates to locomotive control and not general train control.
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In the UK, "train line" is commonly understood to mean a railway route (e.g. between two cities: "the train line from London to Bristol"). If "break pipe" is an equally suitable terms to train line then perhaps it should be used instead (I'm not a specialist in this area).
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I know I'm barely making sense here, but I figured I'd spew all this info out before I forget it all. If anyone can take the above info and run with it, feel free--otherwise I will hopefully not forget to come back and try to straighten this all out. Check out
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which is only a holding brake setting, but is enough to stop a train from beginning to roll on a gradient. This was introduced to do away with the need for manual parking brakes - you may be familiar with old Southern stock such as the
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to left) so that the two ends move in opposite directions when the truck rotates, cancelling out the motion of the top end (connected to the pull rod) of the arm. It's an amazingly simple and effective design.
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