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I haven't found any sources or articles using "R." without really digging for it. On simply searching about Pragg on Google, all sources use either only "Praggnanandhaa" or his initial "R" without a dot. At least in Pragg's home country of India, his initial R is rarely followed by a dot. On grounds
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We'll have to agree to disagree here. Knowledge can set its own style for running text, but for other people / organizations / etc., COMMONNAME predominates. And you have the burden of proof reversed: if there aren't any reliable sources using "R.", and I can't find any yet, then
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If you do a search "R. Praggnanandhaa" -"Rameshbabu" you get 180,000 returns, but they are pretty much all Indian sites. I searched the first 100, and only two (if that) were international. Two appeared to be international but they were only sites for Indian expats. So who is WP beholden to, the
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His full name would still be mentioned in the article's lead, but since "R Praggnanandhaa" is the most common way of presenting his name (may even be preferred by Pragg himself), it makes more sense for the article title. People won't confuse him for anybody else if
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Praggnanandhaa himself used the initial "R" on his GM title application, and his FIDE page also uses the abbreviation. If Pragg really had a problem with it, he could easily just ask FIDE to change it. So I don't really see your point. We don't have to shorten it to "Pragg", R Praggnanandhaa is
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cannot "make up" its own unique spelling. We should have evidence that this is a term at all. (Anyway, that comment was in response to Serial Number 54129, who did bring up the topic of usage in reliable sources - I'd be happy to support if it really does turn out that they do use "R.")
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If we take this as a rationale then we probably need to rename all the thousands of other articles about Indian people (and
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newspapers have for shortening the young man's name, I have no idea, but it is obviously introducing a bias in WP's choice of description and words. I say this as a battle-hardened veteran of such POV changes on WP, a veteran of nearly 16 years.
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It is most certainly not. If you do the binary search, "Rameshbabu
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