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311:"The lower classes"? "Street definition"? Who wrote this? An aristocrat? This article itself is ironically worthy of a rant. I've re-written the introduction (still not good, though). A problem like this needs a complete transformation by many people, little by little.
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Well, I've rewritten the first section, and I think it is better. It could still use polishing, and the first sentence needs a major revision.
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