1484:"Revelations"? What is that? Why do you say "sect"? Rapture theory cuts across many denominations. It basically is not a denominational distinctive. The focus on 1 Thes 4:17 is because that is the only verse which must be accepted as referring to a Rapture, a catching up of the Church, though there are many others on the Coming of Christ which may refer to the same event, but without the catching up specified. Another candidate is 2 Thes 2 with apostasia, but that passage is commonly taken to mean a doctrinal departure instead of a departure from earth. (
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Doddridge and Gill. The former doesn't use 'rapture' in the 'gathered up' sense (you can search for it through Google Books to see that it is used in an expressive manner/meaning), and the latter does but not in the exposition of Revelation rather in his
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Christian denominations do not subscribe to rapture theology and have a different interpretation of the aerial gathering described in 1 Thessalonians 4. Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Lutherans, Anglicans, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, the United Church of Christ, most Methodist and
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Christian Zionists that have also a dualism with regards to salvation. Many do however also reject it as preposterous and unscriptural, since it can not be harmonized with scripture that easily.
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Xianity focuses only on Thess. in discussing the Rapture, but the calling of the tribes of Israel in Revelation should at least be mentioned (and – if it is dealt with separately at Knowledge – linked) and that in the lede, not omitted.
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