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3060:: SDNOTDEF does not mean "say something extremely vague in an attempt to avoid saying anything about the topic of the article", it means "aim for understandability and conciseness in explaining what the article is about rather than aiming for a pedantic precise definition". What one needs is something indicating that this is about the locations of the zeros of the zeta function. The status quo, "Conjecture in mathematics linked to the distribution of prime numbers" is more informative, but still doesn't really pinpoint what this is about (the connection to prime numbers is pretty indirect), and is also too long (69 characters when the target length is 40). 3685:, the author seems to have lots of working papers claiming stuff that would be groundbreaking if true (including an alleged proof of the Riemann Hypothesis, and an alleged proof of there being a finite amount of prime numbers). What do you think is going on? I would assume that papers that groundbreaking would be peer reviewed and picked up by major journals, very quickly. Do you think it’s likely that he hasn’t been noticed, that his papers were all disproven but not retracted for some reason, that all his papers were complete bs, or that his papers are waiting to be peer reviewed? 2235:
going the wrong direction, taking a problem that might be decidable somehow (Riemann) and reducing it to a problem that we know is undecidable (termination of even certain simple concrete tag systems). It doesn't help us resolve Riemann because tag systems in general aren't an easy way to solve things, and it doesn't prove hardness of anything because for that you need to translate in the other direction from the known-hard to the unknown. So there is no hope that this kind of translation can be useful as a general solving-problem approach. —
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should be expected to learn those stuff on the way. and though putting the note that Li is referrign to the logarithmic integral function could be put a little early its not all that big of a deal as the logarithmic integral function is already extremely closely tied to the riemann zeta function so its really easy for many people to assume its the logarithmic integral function and not the polylogarithmic one.
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neglected to mention where and how the proof was wrong. Dozens of “experts” on the RH, approached directly by email, have, with few exceptions, not deigned to reply; and if they did, would not offer an opinion on the correctness of proof, nor point out any fatal error. Other academic mathematicians usually could not even be drawn to read the paper.
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does the same, and some cranks who never published anything have their complete works on it (what ArXiv does when they eventually realize a paper is bullshit, is to reclassify it as  General Mathematics  - or GM). Of course the Ramanujan J. is a fairly good journal, but cranks have been able in the
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So, does that mean the RH could actually end up being somewhat ambiguous? (I’m thinking, what if it turns out that 1. there are values away from the critical line that _could_ be zeroes, 2. it is possible to show that no algorithm can prove that any of these values is _actually_ zero rather than just
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The committee invited more than 1,200 mathematicians to participate in an open review wherein the referees had to openly reveal their names and institutional affiliations so that everything was transparent to all other experts and nothing could be done anonymously. However, of the 1000 plus invitees,
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Dr Easwaran, who works at Sreenidhi Institute of Science and Technology (SNIST) Hyderabad placed his claims on the internet five years ago. In 2020, after it was downloaded a thousand times, an expert committee consisting of eight mathematicians and theoretical physicists was constituted to look into
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before it was obvious it is log_e. Now, it is not, AT ALL. "As for ISO, pfeh. Nobody follows ISO." Russia, France, et cetera follows ISO. It does not matter anyway, since wikipedia MUST follow ISO. lg is 10 base, log is 2 base. Full stop. "follow number theory conventions" "mathematicians use log for
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Sorry if this is well know, but looking at the patterns in 3d (hard to view 4D) of the values of non-prime numbers, it seems like one could simply look at the data around the chosen point to follow it down to 1/2. I guess a proof is (a, all 'fingers' lead down to 1/2 eventually and we know that their
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Does it really make sense to break out "Popular expositions" as a separate subsection of the references section? Also, I am puzzled why some things were included and not others. The selection seems rather arbitrary in my opinion, and not really connected with any reliable metric of "popularness" of
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No. You are making a confusion. The current shortdesc doesn’t attempt in any way to define the article. It just attempts to provide something more than a totally useless information on it - which is what your version provides. It is of no help whatsoever to describe as a « mathematical conjecture »
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Perhaps I can elaborate why I think this is irrelevant here, though. I think the universality of tag systems, proved by Minsky in 1961, is worth knowing, but after that point the main use of tag systems is to prove other things universal or undecidable. When you reduce Riemann to tag systems, you're
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Huh? (BTW I saw your edit on my watchlist, but changing a comment to add a ping after-the-fact doesn't work.) By now it's clearer that there was no proof. We already mention this, very briefly and with appropriate skepticism, in our biography of Atiyah. I don't think it rises to the level of needing
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Right! Missed the exception, and in my head I'm often very sloppy up to asymptotic density 0 exceptions. (I am certainly not a real number theorist.) I guess that it would still possibly be due to include in the article something about consequences of the RH for typical prime gaps, but it is not
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All of the above seem united by their utter, if usually unspoken, disbelief that an amateur could prove the Riemann Hypothesis. So, well into the third year after his original paper was uploaded, Kumar Eswaran has still to receive a professional mathematical appraisal of his proof. Yet the proof is
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I found location of twin prime number. I will want need some help A belong to integers then, A is not equal to BC+B+C then, A is infinite Please say this statement is right/wrong. If statement is right please send it prove. If your proof is right then, I join your
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A quantum system has been found whose energy levels correspond to the zeros of the zeta function. This system was proposed on 30 of March 2017 in Physical Review Letters by Carl Bender of Washington University in St. Louis, Dorje Brody of Brunel University London and Markus MĂźller of the University
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I don't think they should be suppressed, and I think calling them "less good" is an oversimplification, but I agree with keeping them separate. They have a different character than the other references and are aimed at a different audience. Keeping them separate helps that audience to find material
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As with many other WP articles on physics and math, there is quite a high "baseline level" of knowledge required for the reader. This is counterproductive, as an encyclopedia is supposedly intended for people who do not already know everything about the subject (or else why would they look it up?).
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To save everyone from needing to wade through this: it seems that this is actually one of the better claimed proofs of RH. Although both sloppy in its notation and ultimately wrong—they're all wrong—when cleaned up, it does yield a valid heuristic that RH should be true -- a known heuristic, alas,
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i mean the riemann hypothesis as a concept is already pretty complex of a topic (no pun intended) so that level of knowledge of math as stated in the original post should be expected for the most part, and for those who dont know that stuff yet are wanting to learn the riemann hypothesis then they
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I completely agree with this separate subsection. Maybe some other works should be included in it also (I haven't gone through all references yet), but these four definitely are - euphemistically - "popular" expositions. And they are (not perhaps but certainly) "less good". In fact I wonder if we
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An “ambiguous” Riemann scenario would have to result in all of the corollaries being similarly ambiguous (for example, with something like Robin’s inequality, there would have to be instances where the inequality is possibly violated, but no algorithm can prove if it actually is, or if it merely
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In particular, two of the main functions of short descriptions are (1) to help disambiguate search results, on mobile, and (2) as part of annotated lists of links in see-also sections. In both cases (for instance, when searching for things named after Riemann or in mathematics articles where one
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I'm sorry that you don't appreciate the importance (historically, and mathematically) of interesting systems such as Tag systems, and have channeled your disinterest into attacking the intention of my edits instead of reviewing the content I add. Sure, I happen to cite a lot of Wolfram material,
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Mathematics is a very incremental subject. Most advanced topics are difficult or impossible to understand without first understanding a pile of precursor topics which a typical person won't be familiar with. In the case of the Riemann hypothesis a reader who has no knowledge of complex analysis,
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o mathematician has publicly commented on his proposed proof. This has not been because of any lack of effort on KE’s part. Several eminent math journals have refused to accept his paper for review or, in at least one case, have replied with a dismissive single paragraph review that, strangely,
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The arXiv moderators classified this one as "General Mathematics (math.GM)". That generally means they thought it was junk. The long version history is also a bit of a red flag. I have no specific knowledge of what might be wrong with it, though. In any case we'd need secondary sources by other
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from 2017, yet another attempt? I'm sure it isn't a sound proof or I would have heard of it via other channels, but I was hoping to somewhere find an explanation of what's wrong with this one. Arxiv has some reputation, but I think the short answer would be to file it somewhere within the eight
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No. Until an article is peer-reviewed AND published by a reliable journal (in principle it should be reviewed by MathSciNet), it is not appropriate to mention it here. The fact is that version 10 of this preprint is now more than 2 years old and is not mentioned by MathSciNet: this is not very
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that they must be true. The actual construction of the Turing machines mentioned in the article are entirely within citations in the article. I similarly left a citation to an article which shows the actual construction of the tag system I was referencing. Could you please suggest ways I could
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What part of question did you not understand? It seems clear to me that the question revolved around the historical reasons for choosing s. While it goes without saying (which makes me wonder why you felt the need to point it out) that the choice of variable (not "letter") does not effect the
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Any chance you'd be willing to put up a PDF copy? The PNG method is quite inconvenient and slow. If you're not willing to make one generally available, you can email me a copy through Knowledge. I can't promise I will make any cogent comments, but parts of it do look rather interesting.
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immediately obvious to me where to fit it in. Now, the thing that made me bring this up is the treatment in the article of this result of Dudek. From what I can tell, this is a mild improvement of earlier work by RamarĂŠ and Saouter (which itself builds on earlier work). It looks a bit
1222:. I hesitate to include the result in the Wiki article before it is peer reviewed, but it's worth to keep an eye on it. If their method turns out to be valid then there is further room for improvement: As they mention in footnote 2 on p.20, they were able to push the bound on the length 802:
I almost agree to conservation. Rather reluctantly concerning Derbyshire's book. But I don't agree at all concerning Sabbagh's books. I just moved in the new subsection his other book on the subject (also published in 2003…), which is not reviewed by MathSciNet and Zbl (and not even
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Sorry, my bad. Although I would have preferred to have the explanation even earlier than that in order not to lose faith, I guess I am oversensitized by all the other occurrences of unexplained or unlinked-to terminology that I have encountered elsewhere. Here, statement withdrawn.
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are an infinate number of primes.... so proving infinate fingers may be a step. I do apologize if I'm an idiot. I'm no maths whiz but for 20 years this problem has held me in it's grip. My only wish is for SOMEONE to prove, or disprove OR fall into GĂśdel's incompleteness theorems.
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Are you talking about result just above (11) in that paper? It allows o(x/log^4 x) exceptions, so the largest prime gaps could be larger. In fact even (11) itself can't show sqrt-sized gaps: set y = sqrt(x) and note that there could be on the order of log^2 x gaps of this size. -
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I'd never given this much thought until now, but it is clear that there is no generally accepted way of specifying the base of a logarithm, and that a certain amount of personal preference becomes involved. Pretty much all scientific calculators use the scheme in the Imgur
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here. Opeyemi Enoch's claimed 2015 proof fizzled out and hasn't been heard of for a long time. Kumar Eswaran has managed to pick up media coverage for his claimed proof, but this is not the same as convincing other mathematicians and winning the Clay Mathematics Institute
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might see this in a see-also section) the fact that this is mathematical is a given, and the fact that it's a conjecture is so vague as to be meaningless and unhelpful. Putting them both together adds pleonasm to the mix: conjectures are always mathematical. So
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very accessible — amazingly so. It uses no theorem or result that was discovered, say, after 1930. I, a professor of mechanical engineering, had no trouble following the details of the proof after revising my knowledge of undergraduate complex analysis...
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It may be the only argument but it's a strong argument. Log is much more standard in this area. "ln" is hard to distinguish from "1n" or "In", especially in text-based math formatting which we sometimes use. As for ISO, pfeh. Nobody follows ISO (see e.g.
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Good morning @David Eppstein, Sorry, yes you're right: the plot cuts off at 30. Can we provide a better plot? The current one seems misleading, showing zeros along the red line at 1, 2x near 14, 2x near 21, 2x near 25, and 1x just under 30. Thanks,
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The current shortdesc that you have reverted to violates point #1 because it attempts to be a definition. The fact that "mathematical conjecture" might be a suitable shortdesc for many articles does not make it unsuitable for this article. Best,
2794:. A proof of the Riemann hypothesis would be the greatest mathematical discovery in some time and because of that plenty of people have falsely claimed to have proved it. A real proof would generate far more coverage including from better sources. 2201:
a read, it might convince you of the importance of these less-appreciated systems. In the meantime, could another editor comment on the possible addition of a statement regarding Tag systems in this page, and whether Eppstein is editing from a
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Having watched the talk (and followup questions) live with several people mildly knowledge in the area, I do not strongly believe that Atiyah has successfully proved it, and agree with David Eppstein that we should wait for reliable sources.
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by MathSciNet!). Here is journalist, who is writing vulgarization on about everything you can think of, who is not a specialist of the subject, who is not even a mathematician, even in a very large acception of the term, and who publishes
3467:. (The part of our article that states "A related bound was given by Jeffrey Lagarias in 2002" is also of this form.) That means that if RH is false, it is provably false, but does not imply provability in the case that it is true. — 3545:
Instead of "The Riemann hypothesis is concerned with the locations of these nontrivial zeros, and states that..." I would write "The Riemann conjecture is concerned with the locations of these nontrivial zeros, and states that..."
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being a near miss, and 3., conversely, it is also possible to show that there is no way to prove that _all_ of the “candidate zeroes” are near misses). If 1., 2., and 3., are all true, this would make the RH permanently ambiguous.
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what is indeed clearly a conjecture concerning a subject that is indeed clearly mathematics. A better way to be useful would be to provide a concise and elegant formulation conveying the same information - no more, but no less. --
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to Wolfram to articles. And the fact that a computationally universal system can verify a counterexample to Riemann is not something that needs a tag system to construct. A tag system is merely an obfuscated way of doing it.
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looks like it has some interesting information to add to this article’s possible consequences section. However, it warns that it hasn’t been peer reviewed, so I don’t know if it’s appropriate to add information from it yet?
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You didn't see the sentence "The function Li occurring in the first term is..." ? It's a few lines down, but all of the lines between the formula and that sentence are also explanations of other parts of the same formula.
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Platt's work (2011 and later) should be added. Also, shouldn't we say something about the degree of rigour of some computations? I've heard that Gourdon-Demichel is a bit ropey on this point, due to non-rigorous sampling.
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brings up a 404 when I try to navigate to it. I did a quick look for it, but I wasn't 100% sure exactly which book it was supposed to be. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me can point the link towards a working
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past to publish rubbish in fairly good journals with peer-(not too careful)-reviewing. Anyway, after such insane claims in his preprints (clearly never to be printed…) I would be very careful before citing his paper.
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typeface, it might not be as easy to read. The word Ill can also suffer from this problem. The previous word is ill with a capital I, but it is very hard to distinguish from the Roman numeral III (3) when typed like
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Example from this article: in the section "History", the function "Li" is introduced without any explanation or even link to an explanation. The term "Li" is short enough to have two meanings in math listed in WP:
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I think its called the Riemann hypothesis because that's how it's used: as an extra hypothesis to prove results that would otherwise be unattainable. Regardless, it's the common name so we're not changing it. -
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This needs vastly better sourcing before it's included here. Both those articles claim that the solution to the Riemann hypothesis "could open the doors for the use of primes in cryptography" (as if that wasn't
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should not suppress these references from the article. None of the authors is a specialist of the subject. Sabbagh is not even a mathematician, and his book is his one and only work reviewed by MathSciNet (by
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infinite series or number theory isn't going to get very far, and that includes almost everybody who hasn't studied mathematics at university level. We could write an article along the lines of the ones in
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improve my edit, such as formatting the construction of the tag system in a Wiki-friendly manner, or perhaps this information belongs on a different page, instead of striking down valuable additions?
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which tries to explain the topic and underlying concepts to people who have no mathematical background, but it would have to be about as long as this article and it would need to be a separate page.
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page, there is a section on notable examples which states that a Turing Machine has been constructed which halts iff the RH is false. These statements are not vacuous even though it follow from the
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I have to agree with David Eppstein, the statement added is pretty trivial and if the best source available is a passing mention in a blog then it's not significant enough to include here anyway.
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We don't write articles based on viewership trends. There are an awful lot of attempted proofs of the Riemann Hypothesis which have not been accepted, so far this isn't distinguishable from them.
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Has this possibility been seriously considered (or, alternatively, ruled out?) The article should probably mention any “grey area” the Riemann hypothesis has, if in fact there actually is any.
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Your claim that it doesn't list the smaller zeros is factually incorrect. The three smallest are in the caption of the lead image of the article, and more are in the "Gram points" section. —
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Those are not zeros. They have imaginary part zero (the blue curve) but nonzero real part (the red curve), or vice versa. The zeros are where both colors cross the axis at the same point. —
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2A02:587:4114:9400:486E:F7D4:172C:1629 should speak more clearly. In the theory of analytic functions, all zeros are equally important. He has just volunteered for the task of connecting.
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people about it in order to add coverage of it here; there's a place in the world for cataloguing all the crank proofs of crank-magnet topics, but this Knowledge article isn't it. —
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gets it better in the first line: "Where are the zeros of zeta of s?" But maybe that's too informal. How about "Conjecture on zeros of the zeta function", exactly 40 characters? —
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Also lots of computer scientists use lg for log_2. In any case this is a mathematics article and mathematicians use log for log_e; that's the convention we should be following. —
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regarding his clearly strong bias against Wolfram material, which is hurting the neutrality of articles like this by keeping out interesting, factual, well-supported edits?
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This article seems to consider only two possibilities: either that the RH is true and we can easily prove it to be so, or that it is false and we can easily prove that.
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Did you just use imgur? Really? Anyway, log is implying that you should write the base, WHICH ONE cannot do on a calculator (still using it in 2021??). Full stop. See
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On 14 June 2017, N. Robles and K. Pratt have submitted a paper that claims to improve the lower bound for the proportion of zeros on the critical line to 41.49%. See
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for a more egregious example of ISO logarithm-notation that is best avoided). Consistency can be achieved by getting rid of stray instances of ln from the article. —
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I stand by the edit summary saying that "mathematical conjecture" is too vague. It needs a bit more detail and I will go along with what others think is suitable.--
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The only argument in favor of "log" seems to be that "log" is more accepted in the field of number theory. I think this argument weighs less than the previous two.
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promising. (The author is credited by MathSciNet with one single other published paper, which addresses a similar subject: Ramanujan J.59(2022), no.3, 745–755).--
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Oh yes I see: this guy claims a proof of the Riemann Hypothesis, and a "simple and correct" proof of Fermat's last theorem as well... This settles the matter! --
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other than 1" do you think fails to be a proper explanation? Or did you mean, why does our article use that particular letter for the argument, rather than
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The interest of other mathematicians in Atiyah's claimed proof seemed to fizzle out quickly. It is quite a long time ago now and the prize offered by the
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is yet another website that accepts pretty much anything, and people have to pay for the privilege of doing so ($ 400 to $ 850 according to the source).--
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who credits Turing 1939 for first studying it and Kreisel 1958 for proving that RH is equivalent to statement that some decidable property holds for all
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Thanks IanMacM; in my experience with mathematical English, "none are" is much more common than "none is" (in agreement with David Eppstein's revert). --
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On the third paragraph it would be better to use "conjecture" instead of "hypothesis". This is a conjecture and when proved it will become a theorem.
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commenting on the attempt of Louis de Branges to prove the Riemann Hypothesis. How can I bring it to the attention of those who would be interested?
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Anyone think a "In popular culture" section would be appropriate for this very serious article? Wolfram has three and I'm assuming there are more:
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Could you please briefly indicate in the caption where we can find the zeros in the plot, if it is not at crossings for zero values? Thank you,
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mathematics, it may not have been arbitrary. Do you know that it was arbitrary for sure? What is your source and why didn't you provide it?
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I just came here searching for this topic. Anyway, since ln is a bit confusing and there's not consensus on the meaning of log, shouldn't log
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Wow, I would never have thought that it would distinguish between adding a ping to an existing edit and making a new edit with a ping. OK. -
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It was based on the comments of the seven reviewers and responses of the author that the committee concluded Easwaran’s proof as correct...
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As far as I can tell, anyone who might have an informed opinion about this is saying "no comment" until details become available. I agree,
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showing how not to do it. When something like this is worth mentioning, it can usually be incorporated into the main body of the article.--
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Whatever gives you the idea that Knowledge must follow ISO? I don't know of any policy, guideline, or other precedent that would say so. —
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Probably not much, but it was given as an example. The key issue is whether to use ISO notation, which specifies ln for logs in base
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Thanks,of course that was silly of me. Perhaps we can indicate this explicitly, to help other mistaken fools like me.Thanks again,
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Looking at the relationship between RH and prime gaps: It is true that CrĂĄmer proved around 1920 that the size of a prime gap is
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on this subject that is readable by them, and helps mathematicians avoid material that is too popularized to be useful to them. —
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attempted proofs currently included in the article. (I wish I were sufficiently mathematical to be able to do so, but...)
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that such sections are a waste of time and tend to fill up with uninteresting, unsourced, and insignificant anecdotes. —
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or whatever? If so, you do realize that the choice of letter is arbitrary and does not affect the mathematics, right? —
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Someone added a bunch of junk to this page, which could be AI-generated but is obviously inappropriate regardless.
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For this purpose, there is absolutely no reason to depict the complex plane with anything but 1:1 aspect ratio.
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It's a number theory article, of course it should follow number theory conventions and use log rather than ln. -
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poorly explained, and it doesn't even have a list of some of the smaller zeroes of zeta(s) on the critical line.
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Why should this be relevant? How much use do you think research mathematicians make of scientific calculators? —
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Compliance with standards: ln is unambiguous contrary to log, probably more widely used, and recommended by ISO.
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Just in case anyone cares that readers understand what is written here, this article needs a great deal of work.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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should urge against this arbitrary judgement of some sources to be "popular" (and thus, less good perhaps?)
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Something carefully written should be added as the number of viewers jumped from a few thousands to 50K.
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https://www.cambridge.org/engage/coe/search-dashboard?authors=Frank%20Vega&sortBy=PUBLISHED_DATE_DESC
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A heuristic which is also very well known to the point where a variant of it is already in this article.
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Sorry for asking something that's not really related to Knowledge, but here goes. I recently put on line
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See arguments above about following standard notation rather than making up notation that nobody uses. —
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log_e", so what is correct? I think you need to add "USA" there too. Anyway, Knowledge is neither.
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I agree that "Conjecture on zeros of the zeta function" is much better than my attempt. Thanks!
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My suggestion is to explain or to reference what 's' stands for in the Riemann zeta function.
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I've updated it to a working link for the same book under a slightly different title and date,
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could be reached. This in turn would further improve the lower bound on the number of zeros.
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problems in mathematics; one of them, in fact, is the problem of deciding whether a given
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Note that it is often said that Levinson produced a proof for 33.33% and Conrey for 40%.
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and should not attempt to define the article's subject nor to summarise the lead.
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