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Why is there a section of "supporting characters" at all? Rincewind is not a novel or a set of novels. He is merely a character from fiction, not the work of fiction itself. Therefore he has no "supporting characters". There is absolutely no need to write short or long articles on every character
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Rincewind as a "coward." He just understands his personal phenomenon of negative karma. As in "Interesting Times," he knows that anything good that happens to him will shortly result in something very bad happening to him. And he avoids trouble by running, a tactic at which he
1236:" "I read of lot of Beachcomber in second-hand collections when I was around 13. Dave Langford pointed out the origin of Rincewind a few years ago, and I went back through all the books and found the name and thought, oh, blast, that's where it came from. And then I thought, what the hell, anyway."
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Fantastic and at first he could only communicate with Rincewind because he only spoke Trob, and later on he could understanding everything any character said. I'm not sure when this happened, it might just be a discrepancy between the two books.
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I put a new picture in the article. It's a low-resolution, low-quality scan taken from The Last Hero -- I don't know if this is allowed or if it's a no-no, but it seems to me that a small picture like this used to illustrate a character could be considered fair use. --Chrismith 22:08, 29 May 2006
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I don't remember anything of this sort, either, and I skimmed through the book and didn't find anything to support this claim. I've removed that bit from the article until someone can post the relevent passages or give a page number. --Chrismith 15:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
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1204:"The name " Churm Rincewind" is the leader of the Twelve Red-Bearded Dwarves that feature as recurrent characters in the works of Beachcomber (J.B. Morton) . This is a parody of the fact that Tolkien named Gandalf after a member of the Nibelung of Norse Mythology."
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Not that this means anything, but I believe he has been quoted as saying that it is somewhat difficult/boring to write Rincewind novels, as there is only so much you can do with an utter coward who runs away from everything.
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Furthermore, if there are no objection to adding a separate "Titles" paragraph on the Rincewind page, should any other text than the titles themselves be non-quoted text to avoid copyright infringement?
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It's one of the 8 spells that created the universe isn't it? He starts saying it in COM, but I can't remember it off hand. I can have a look later though. And it's taken up all the room in his head.--
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got too big, though I'm not really a fan of the arrangement; I'd prefer we restore that ol' list, heavily butchered alas, and make this article more focused on the character. –
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Should there be a poll for such a topic, regarding the addition of such a paragraph? Would it be more proper to add them only to the pages for each book where the titles occur?
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