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from 2012. Unfortunately, neither image has all four members in clear focus. If I had to pick, I probably choose the latter of the two, since it has three of the members in clear focus side by side. However, since this article is still at GA status, I don't think one can just simply change the lead
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The first couple sentences are a bit confusing. The band was formed in 1999 but they broke up on two occasions in the late 1990s? So they broke up twice within less than a year? Seems like the author of the text wants to convey that there was a version of the band before 1999, no?
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so as of right now, that would be the only way of getting it. Cheapest box set is listed at $ 180, so unless you love this band, it might be best to wait and see if the book will eventually be sold separately (or if the book even has new info not featured on the wiki page).
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