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Abrahamic root particular to the semitic "ahl al kitab" (=the people of the Book). If the link is due to guesswork based on a confusion over occultism and mme Blavatsky one can
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from Aytunç Altındal's book "Bilinmeyen Hitler" (Unknown Hitler): (I'm trying to translate it) "On 17.04.1957, he came to Adana(Turkey)...He went to Egypt (via Syria)...Sebottendorf was 82 when he left Turkey." (page:193) I also have the
Turkish version of Rudolf von Sebottendorf's book
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Their are the dark sides of secret society and their are roumers that theire are even existiv secret societies of jews against jews things witch go back way back in history to the days of the pyramids. you are just starting to look at the screts and I know only the surface too.
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We can't put it in the article without a reference. Turkish books should not be a problem: the bibliography already includes books in German. As long as you can spell the title, and supply the date and page references, then people more expert than myself can check it
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On Sufi meditation from a recent perspective but with some bearing on Aryan culture see: Irina Tweedy, "The Chasm Of Fire --A womans experience of liberation through the teachings of a Sufi Master" Tisbury, Wiltshire: Element Books, 1979
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