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However, where you and I differ is that I do not blatant conflict of interest. Like it or not, your edits are in violation of the appropriate guidance. If this is not the case, explain why you have removed all reference to the more notable examples of your competitor's wares from this article. Explain also why you inserted a picture of your own product in the lead section when other more notable examples exist. It is precisely this loss of balance that the CoI guidance in intended to prevent. Wiikipedia is not a platform to promote your wares. If you persist in this behaviour you
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Knowledge (XXG) versus 5,190 for 'ruggedized'. Do we offer alternative spellings for all words that have such alternatives? Do we correct the other articles that offer only the one spelling? The
British alternative was inserted on 26 Aug 2006 by NerdyNSK, for what purpose, I do not know. In theory, I would propose that this spelling be removed, but I'm not going to do that and will leave it for now and possibly correct all the other articles in the future, if nobody objects.
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misrepresenting the category. This is a manifestation of the problems with POV editors. While I accept the material added is not particularly promotional in and of itself it is still misleading through undue emaphsis. Indeed, I note that the earlier version precluded the possibilty that a non-rugged system could be rackmounted and a rugged system could be be mobile. POV and misleading.
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I should have got back to this earlier but I wished to avoid a knee-jerk reaction and didn't realise precisely how long I had left this. You're right that I bring a particular point of view to this article, that is the case for any editor and I believe I have been neutral and impartial throughout.
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I would agree that the term 'rugged computer' has been extended to mobile devices but that does not invalidate any of the material I offered. The article, as originally written in 2006, only mentioned laptops. I would propose that someone with more knowledge about mobile devices than I provide
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I stand chastised regarding 'ruggedised'. I can only say that my brain immediately locked on that word as a misspelled version of 'ruggedized' and I didn't see the other version. However, I may point out that while this is a
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Most importantly, the balance of this article has been shifted. Most rugged computer are mobile devices, static devices generally are inherently more protected and do not need to be drop proof, submersible or whatever. In promoting his particular brand of rugged machines
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too), those terms should be disclosed here too. They are sounds much more internationally then "rugged", and should help us to understand "are we talk and thing about equivalent phenomena or not" while establish
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