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model of the surface described, which is singly ruled, has a line of self-intersection, and if seen from some angles can be casually mistaken for a hyperboloid. I cannot find a viewpoint at which the two "limbs" of the figure are as symmetrical as in the photograph in question. Note also that in
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at U. Arizona, but that caption seems incorrect. Indeed, this model looks suspiciously similar to the "quartic surface with double line" model (number 52 in that page). Check carefully the wires and how they cross, and compare with those of a true doubly ruled hyperboloid (number 68). The quartic
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A hyperboloid is a doubly-ruled surface generated by a set of straight wires, whose ends span two parallel circles in opposite senses. Note the isolated straight line segment that lies on the surface (at its narrowest part) and intercepts all the
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3. The section "Tangent planes, developable surfaces" should be rewritten, and "Application and history of developable surfaces" should be a subsection "Tangent planes, developable surfaces", not its own section.
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plane tilted 45 degrees relative to both axes and passing through the point (ε,0,0) where ε is a sufficiently small positive number. This line crosses the surface 4 times.
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It seems that the U Arizona page has been silently corrected. I have updated the image at commons, but it may take some time for the changes to become visible here.
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question: what is the significance of ruled surfaces in the history of geometry? What is its place in today geometry? is it just of historical/curiosity interest?
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indeed a hyperboloid of one sheet? The description of the image in Knowledge and Wiki Commons were taken from the caption of item 51 in the
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surface, I gather, is obtained when two points of the generating line move along two parallel circles in
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Look again. It is not. For one thing, it is self-intersecting and has two pinch points. All the best, --
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The fact that the surface is (at least) 4th degree is proved by considering a line parallel to the
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2. The formatting. I have already made some strides on this, but there is more to be done.
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Well, I fixed the caption to say what the picture actually seems to show. All the best, --
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I'd like to see a citation of this, I did not find this proposition elsewhere.
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can't be right, as straight lines don't even make sense in this context.
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to different values. The two generating circles are obtained by setting
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from the wrong one (described by Stolfi) to a correct hyperboloid. —
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I repeat the question. Knowledge does not need that embarassment...
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is incorrect, I suggest you contact the authors of that page.
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equatorial "straight line segment" on hyperboloid is a circle
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The second sentence does not appear in the caption at
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To understand what Stolfi is saying, I made myself a
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