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The lead's a bit short - remember it's supposed to summarize the entire article, so I'd recommend adding a few other things, like her participation in the Boxer Rebellion and serving as the East Asia Squadron flagship in 1900. I like to put a line or two on technical stuff (like main armament, speed,
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and thought I'd take a look at what I can. There are some other MOS issues - the footnotes need to be formatted the same (i.e., link them all or none, use "p." or "pg" consistently), ensure all books in the bibliography section are cited, or else move them to a "Further reading" section or remove
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size), though I know some don't like doing that. As an aside, numbers should be spelled out if they are followed by a numerical descriptor (like twenty 305mm shells). I fixed the two instances here. Otherwise, the article looks great. Nice work, Buggie.
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The entire design and construction section, for example. The Boxer Rebellion is a fairly notable event and merits mentioning in the lead. On a related note, you may want to look through accounts of the Boxer Rebellion for a fuller picture of what
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section. Though everything I can think of in relation to this article is linked from the article's body, I would ask everyone to comment on possibilities. That said, currently I see no other issues (except for mentioned above) with the
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question: I have no access to the sources. After ending the initial review step I'll take care of bringing other's attention to the book list; though until any claims about inaccuracy are received, I'll assume the good referencing. โ€”
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As for images, they need a date of publication (not the same thing as the date the photo was taken), and the document they were published in (i.e., a newspaper, naval annual, postcard, etc.) See for example
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Kind of don't get the publication date Parsec. All of them, bar the color print, ahve the date written there. IS there something wrong with that? I'll axe the color print and do the other things ASAP.
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them altogether (for instance, Gardiner et. al., Jung, Preston, Spector, and Wood), and one of the two images of the ship sinking need to be moved or removed. Text sandwiching is a no-go.
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What do You think is not summarized in a lead? The Boxer Rebellion is barely mentioned in the article... Given the article's length, the longer lead would just be an overkill, IMHO.
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I'll add the design to the lead, as well as lazily change the images so as they're only using acceptable ones instead of look for dates on the current ones.
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General practice at FAC/ACR/GAN is for sources not directly used in the article to be placed in a further reading section. If the source
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I uploaded of a contemporary warship. The color print is actually the only photo that is currently usable (though it needs a
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This subsection is intended for reviewer's notes on review process. Please, don't edit it unless You are reviewer.
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As for images in general, we need a pre-1917 date of publication all of the images save the color print from
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Thanks for the review. I will admit I forgot about the lead and the References section. My bad. I'll fix it.
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compliance in full, I have already found the substantial shortcoming of the lead section: it doesn't mention
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Why do You think all the books from Bibliography should be used for inline citations? As far as I can see,
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section; instead I just ask to think about possible entries. Right now I don't see any candidates. โ€”
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failure: the article doesn't follow single style of referencing: while most books are listed in the
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it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with
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I completely fail to understand Your point about the images. What did you mean?
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consulted, it needs to be cited directly to meet current sourcing standards.
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it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see
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FYI, See also sections are rarely used, if at all in ship articles, see
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The lead should mention all important events from the ship's history
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Please add comments about the changes or reviewer's mistakes here.
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format, which violates the common style of the article. โ€”
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Well, it seems there is nothing to wait for any more. โ€”
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