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their own, perhaps that would be a more appropriate time to split this into two separate wikipedia articles. I anticipate there will be a lot of news in the World of Warcraft community about this fork in the coming days (ie, press releases at other fan sites, etc.). However, as was mentioned by another person, Knowledge (XXG) is not a crystal ball. Until those press releases happen, maybe this page is a bit premature.
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does not stop being notable simply because it is defunct. There are provably enough sources for it to exist. The question then becomes, should Wowpedia exist. Since there aren't enough sources, the only place for it to be is as a subsection of WoWWiki, or not at all on Knowledge (XXG). I think all of
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You're referring to a 2010 AfD; a lot has happened at those two sites over the following 12+ years, including the 2020 end of WoWWiki! I think that we all agree that there is enough RS to support one article, so the questions is which title. My suggestion is that we use the current active title (the
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for the discussions there on the subject of notability. It was determined on that page that WoWWiki is in fact notable. Of course, notability is not inherrited. My opinion: As a participant in the Wowpedia fork, I expect that Wowpedia will meet the criteria for notability in the not-too-distant
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page. This fork is, frankly, a significant event in the history of WoWWiki, so it should be described there (at least until such a time that WoWWiki has built a new community of its own without us). In a few months (or maybe even weeks), as WoWWiki and Wowpedia diverge and develop notability of
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I stated the opposite; Wowpedia should be a footnote to WoWWiki, despite the latter being shut down. WoWWiki has notability, Wowpedia does not by any ascertainable metric. I suggest reversing the redirection of WoWWiki and doing a merge in the opposite direction. It is a similar situation like
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to justify Wowpedia existing as a standalone page, otherwise both should exist independently. The fact is that while the 2 were eventually merged, for a decade they existed as separate websites and only one was notable during that timeframe.
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Yes, I think they would count if they were references in the article, though they might not be sufficient in their own right. For sure, the article in its current state is not good enough. It needs work if it is to be kept.
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apologies for my misreading of your position. I'm open to a reversal, but am still having trouble grasping how a merge to the former name is preferable to merging to the current name. I've had a look at the example you used
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where it was ultimately established as notable thanks to some sources that were found and added to the article during the fourth AfD. Full disclosure: I'm the one who initially submitted the 4th nomination for WoWWiki, but
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us would prefer the subsection, and it would make sense considering it was a fork. If there is such a time that Wowpedia becomes notable, it can have its own article.
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To clarify, you said that it was established on WoWWiki's talk page that it was notable; but in the full history, the article had been deleted in 2006 following
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The two articles could probably be merged together and retitled as "WoWWiki and Wowpedia" or something with "WoWWiki" and "Wowpedia" redirecting to it.
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The thing is, Knowledge (XXG) chronicles history, not just current events. Companies, for example, do not have their names updated when they rebrand.
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future. However. in an attempt to have neutral point of view, I would suggest that it is still too early to have a page called
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where the defunct site is more notable and the active one isn't (despite that one technically not being fully shut down).
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which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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if the newly found sources had been previously attached, I likely wouldn't have nominated this for AfD
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on 12 March 2023. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see
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Does the many websites covering the split and the existence of wowpedia count towards notability?
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Notability is inherited when almost all active editors have changed over to the forked site. --
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Read the first section on this talk page. Which you really should have done before asking.
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In order to qualify for an encyclopedia article, a website must be "notable". Please read
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happened and the result was the same. There are not enough
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It's simple, the situation hasn't changed at all since
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When discussing notability, one should also consult
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