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Sure, sure, I'm not saying we should have to write articles on every book that is 'more notable' than this one before having the article. In fact, I think systematic bias isn't always a bad thing; imagine if we had lots of articles on things that nobody was ever going to read about and none that were
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is not really a review of the book: like many articles packaged as reviews of nonfiction books, it is more accurtately described as an author giving their own ruminations about the same topic as the book and occasionally mentioning the book in passing. Whether such a review confers the book with the
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In the fall of 2006, groups of editors went around getting rid of articles on webcomic artists—some of the most original and articulate people on the Net. They would tag an article as nonnotable and then crowd in to vote it down. One openly called it the "web-comic articles purge of 2006." A victim,
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Should we really avoid putting these in the article? The interview, for example, provides some good information. I think we should treat them just as we would any other link (not doing so would be a self reference in itself if you think about it), and if that means including them we should do so.
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As the deletions and ill-will spread in 2007—deletions not just of webcomics but of companies, urban places, Web sites, lists, people, categories, and ideas—all deemed to be trivial, "NN" (nonnotable), "stubby," undersourced, or otherwise unencyclopedic—Andrew Lih, one of the most thoughtful
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Anybody can "pull the trigger" on an article (as Broughton phrases it)—you just insert a double-bracketed software template. It's harder to improve something that's already written, or to write something altogether
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observers of Knowledge's history, told a Canadian reporter: "The preference now is for excising, deleting, restricting information rather than letting it sit there and grow." In September 2007,
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Still, a lot of good work—verifiable, informative, brain-leapingly strange—is being cast out of this paperless, infinitely expandable accordion folder by people who
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Only one review is provided here, which isn't really enough to establish notability. Has it been reviewed by any other notable sources? This
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have a narrow, almost grade-schoolish notion of what sort of curiosity an online encyclopedia will be able to satisfy in the years to come.
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Jimbo Wales, Knowledge's panjandrum—himself an inclusionist who believes that if people want an article about every Pokemon character...
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Knowledge, so it looks like we are being biased by having an article about this book and not most other books of greater notability.
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Rob Balder, author of a webcomic called PartiallyClips, likened the organized deleters to book burners, and he said:
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There are some people on Knowledge now who are just bullies, who take pleasure in wrecking and mocking peoples' work
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Every word in every valid article you've destroyed should be converted to profanity and screamed in your face."
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Here is a portion of the New York Review of Books review, the "one review" the editor mentions above:
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And now, twelve years later, it seems to me that the book was not notable after all. In fact,
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relevant to English speaking people. Two pages that have some review collections are
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to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include
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Just redirect all such possibilities to the same place. No more problem. —
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Oh the bitter irony: A reflection on this recent article for deletion
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Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/2008-01-28/John Broughton interview
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Oh yeah, those tin-pot dictators... gotta watch out for them!
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Trev-Mun, author of a comic called Ragnarok Wisdom, wrote:
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contributor may be personally or professionally connected
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The Charms of Knowledge March 20, 2008 Nicholson Baker
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Richard001, O'Reilly lists a couple non-blogs in media
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Knowledge:Knowledge Signpost/2008-05-12/Maker Faire
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