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I didn't want to clutter the article with smaller sales figures that only cover Japan as opposed to its financial stuff which seems to reflect the game's sales as a whole. I can try working JP sales in if needed. The
Siliconera article was to support the specific figure in the infobox. I modelled the
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Do we have any RS specifying what golden age elements they were trying to emulate? When I think golden age JRPGs, I think turn-based battle, random encounters, a focus on story and characters, lengthy playtime (15-30 hours), 16- or 32-bit pixel graphics, lots of side quests, and secret crazy-hard
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The whole fact there were three is a retrospective point after
Oninaki's reveal. Plus there wasn't a huge amount of clarification what they meant by series and IP, particularly as those are normally focused around a narrative connection. The previous attempts were trying to wrangle this, and it
641:- can we clarify why? Did the game not sell, or were there other reasons for the loss? For example, you can sell something like gangbusters but fail to make money because the price was too low, costs were too high, or you got hit with some other exorbitant expense that you had to cover for.
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Did my best to address the points you raised. As to the ones I couldn't... No, there's no update on their fourth project, no I couldn't find a place for the link without disrupting the flow and going outside the sources, and no there wasn't much detail on
Oninaki sales.
241:- This sentence is a bit oddly placed at the end of the paragraph. It would make more sense earlier in the paragraph to provide context as to why Matsuda wanted to found a studio focused on these kinds of games. You may also want to clarify that "successors" refers to
196:- This phrasing is confusing; to me it implies that the company makes modern remakes of golden age games. Maybe something like "...to develop modern games in the style of "golden age" RPGs", or "to develop modern games that drew inspiration from "golden age" RPGs"?
585:- Lots going on here. Campaign length isn't really a game mechanic, and also, long campaigns to me are pretty standard for classic JRPGs. Do the sources indicate differently? And in what ways did the game continue to evoke older RPGs while shifting away from them?
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clearly wasn't working. I've tried to do something with it using this phrasing: "Matsuno had a plan for multiple related titles related to Tokyo RPG Factory's IP, though this first game was created as a standalone project without plans for direct sequels.". --
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I'm not sure why you jumped right to cutting it. It is interesting and relevant; considering that many classic JRPGs (Dragon Quest, FF, Phantasy Star) spawned franchises, it would have made perfect sense for the team to have thought about doing the same for
327:- planned is unnecessary, since all three games were released as opposed to planned then cancelled. I am curious as to whether they set out to do the snow/moon/flowers theme right off the bat, or if they came up with that after designing the very wintery
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321:- I suggest moving this so it's before the name change. Possibly reworking it so it's combined with the first half of the second sentence; in my opinion their ethos and aims are more important than the staffing policy.
202:- Tense confusion - if the company still exists, why past tense? If this structure changed later, it should be clarified as such. Also, the sentence is a bit grammatically awkward - structures don't focus.
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