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of his academic publicationsâ I don't know of any policy or guideline that requires such a list include DOI or JSTOR tracking information, and while I agree that having that information might be useful and interesting, I don't think its absence is reason for denying or holding up an edit request. If a link I have provided doesn't seem to match that of the corresponding article, then that link should certainly be removed. If the edit request is, in your view, an unreasonable one or if you believe it contains erroneous information then it should be denied and the denial should be explained, perhaps as, "Request denied - list of publications is erroneous and/ or does not include DOI numbers or JSTOR information."
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and by interfering. If anyone except you had been allowed to consider my request first, then perhaps it would have been treated at face value. Instead, you have all but succeeded in smothering it, and have dared any other editor to accept the request until it has been handled on your terms, even if you now at last bow out of the conversation. You are setting up new rules as we go along, which makes me increasingly disinterested in submitting such requests, which makes the whole thing backfire and defeats the purpose.
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That is really messy, how you did that. And it is not the formal citation. The first one is strange. The document linked-to at academia.edu has a header that says it was ppublished in the
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Paradise, T.R. 2011. âArchitecture and
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