757:, 157 A.D.2d 244, 555 N.Y.S.2d 851, N.Y.A.D. 2 Dept. (Decided May 21, 1990) According to the opinion he was not disbarred for either, but rather for failing to appear at a disciplinary hearing which was to investigate three separate complaints regarding unprofessional conduct in the Brawley case. The underlying allegations mentioned in the opinion include "unknowingly making a false statement of fact in the representation of a client, counseling a client to refuse a lawful mandate of a Grand Jury, and rendering assistance to that client in order to evade arrest," however, it was failing to appear before the Grievance Committee that resulted in his disbarment.
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WAS very early on that her story was questions and people were looking at her as at best a pawn in
Shartpon's racially, and politically motivated hoax, and at worst, the racist herself. It was within a couple months of the story breaking that it became clear to anyone but racist black people that her story was a lie. And it was all over the news that there was not a single shred of evidence backing her story up, and tons and tons of evidence proving she was lying. That is notoriety...and it happened with months. It it was within a few weeks when there was already PLENTY of doubts. To me, that is "soon."
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illustrations of how people who refuse to abide by ground rules sabotage the overall project. Perhaps we might envision a grade-school group project where every student is assigned the task of cutting out a different US state out of posterboard, and one student decides that the state where he used to live is so important and special that it should be drawn at three times the scale of all the others. By refusing to keep his representation to the same scale, that student has sabotaged any chance that the individual efforts can be brought together to make an accurate representation of the whole.)
1308:{{cite news |title= Evidence Points to Deceit by Brawley |url=http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE0D81E3FF934A1575AC0A96E948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all |publisher=] |quote=A seven-month New York State grand jury inquiry has compiled overwhelming evidence that Tawana Brawley fabricated her story of abduction and sexual abuse by a gang of racist white men last year, according to investigators, witnesses and official summaries of evidence presented to the panel.|date=] |accessdate=2008-01-20}}
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negative quality possessed by one whom the public thinks is a bad person for something horrible they have done. Tawana
Brawley has indeed earned the label of being notorious, but in the early days (as the article points out quite clearly and accurately) she was a sympathetic figure, not a notorious one. It was only after it became clear that she was a slanderous piece of crap that she was seen as notorious, and this was
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her notoriety, which was inflamed by
Brawley's advisers (including the Reverend Al Sharpton and attorneys Alton H. Maddox and C. Vernon Mason), the statements of various public officials, and intense media attention. After hearing evidence, a grand jury concluded in October 1988 that Brawley had not been the victim of a forcible sexual assault and that she herself may have created the appearance of an attack.
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defamed innocent people based on her false allegations, what is particularly important about Al
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Brawley was abused by her mother and stepfather. There is little indication of whether she may have later modified her views.--
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Generally most pages in this arena would carry the more neutral "allegations", title but doing so here would rob accuracy. Moreover, a hoax often requires multiple person either believing or conspiring to advance false allegations or allegation and this scandal would not have existed without the noted intervention of several adult activists.
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Tawana Glenda
Brawley (born 1972) is an African-American woman from Wappingers Falls, New York. In 1987, at the age of 15, she received national media attention in the United States for falsely accusing six white men, some of whom were police officers, of having raped her. The accusations soon earned
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Virginia under an assumed name to avoid justice, Steve Pagone tracked her down and got a court order against her. She will likely have between 10-25% of her wages garnished to pay off the judgment against her, which, after interest, is about $ 400,000
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Rape Case. Tawana's claims were thrown out in court so technically there was never a case of rape. The title as it reads now libels Steven
Pagonnes and the other men wrongfully accused to have commited this act. I tried to change it myself but I just garbled everything and got technical message. Will
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Then request a move and open discussion. Make your case and see what the consensus is. The discussion here is not an official move proposal - it's nothing more than a suggestion and ensuing discussion. Go to the "More" menu at the top of the article page and select "Move" to open a proposal. Then
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earned her notoriety" (emphasis obviously added), it is simply an incorrect usage of the word. I suspect that the person inserting that into this paragraph may have mistaken "notoriety" for something akin to "fame" or "celebrity" or even just "being notable". That is not correct. "Notoriety" is a
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Thanks, and I see his name is now a link. However, this
Brawley article still refers to Abrams only once and only by his last name. The standard practice is to refer to someone by his full name at least once before using only his surname. A phrase or a sentence or two introducing the former attorney
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Grand Jury released its extensive and thorough 170-page report concluding Tawana Brawley had not been abducted, assaulted, raped and sodomized as had been claimed by Brawley and her advisors. The report further concluded that the "unsworn public allegations against Dutchess County Assistant District
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It's always best to use phrases such as "as of 2010" instead of "yet" or "to date", so readers know when the information in the article was current. If newer sources say that Brawley has paid some or all of the moneys she owes, we should definitely include that. When updating the article, please be
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In both cases, what turned out to be unfounded charges were widely given credit and generated immense publicity; celebrities and politicians rallied to the cause of the alleged victims, lengthy and costly legal investigations followed, and at last it emerged that the accusations were groundless. In
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I copied some material from the lead to put it in the article, as issues of criticism of initial media treatment of Brawley, as well as the custody issue (whether NY should have found a different arrangement for her rather than leaving her with advisers) was not treated at all. The source quoted in
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With an article like this, in which many of the sources are daily papers that tend to write in the most dramatic way, it's important not to adopt their approach. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not another tabloid. In addition, having the quote from the Columbia University professor in the
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The one and only occurrence of the word "Abrams" in the article appears in this sentence: "On October 6, 1988, the Abrams Grand Jury released its extensive and thorough 170-page report concluding Tawana Brawley had not been abducted, assaulted, raped and sodomized as had been claimed by Brawley and
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At best, it's a false promise: telling people that if they read on, they're going to get a detailed explanation of a particular aspect of the subject -- a detailed explanation that does not exist. At worst, it's a blatant violation of every rule Knowledge has against giving undue weight: placing
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A common aphorism on the subject of effective speaking is "tell them what you're gonna tell them, tell them, and then tell them what you've told them." With the difference that we have no part which equates to "tell them what you've told them", this is good advice for Knowledge: we tell them what
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considered reliable sources, and I see nothing that makes Wikinews an exception. How do we know that what a Wikinews interview quotes the subject correctly? Where is the verification if I challenge the quote? No... I have to agree with Crossmr on this... not reliable. I could see Wikinews being
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and some of the other sources, I came to the conclusion that Brawley may not have specified how many men "assaulted" her. After one or two statements, one of which was made by motioning with her hands and head and writing a few words in a police officer's notebook, she stopped cooperating with law
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This depends on your definition of "soon." AS someone who lived through this racially motivated hoax with the racist pro-Brawley protesters hurling rocks and bottles at me and my friends for doing nothing but trying to walk to an armory near my high school so we could go to basketball practice, it
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It is not about privacy. Knowledge is (well...WAS since she has been found and is going to have to answer to her crimes) protecting what was essentially a fugitive. She was not after privacy. She was avoiding the financial judgment against her. Never realized that fugitives deserve privacy. But I
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Fraud and hoax are not mutually exclusive. Per wikipedia: "A hoax is an attempt to trick an audience into believing that something false is real." Brawley attempted to trick an audience that she was raped. Per wikipedia: "a fraud is a deception made for personal gain." Brawley's motivations
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this is categorised as a hoax at all? The case and evidence do seem to suggest that her claims were false but it's not particularly unbiased to simply say that this is certainly a hoax (no, I don't consider a jury's findings as absolute, conclusive scientific proof). Could someone please explain?
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I know that I am revisiting an issue that appears to have languished and is likely volatile but I must agree with the proposal that this page be moved to "Tawana Brawley rape hoax". Had her claims not been objectively disproven I would not take this position even if evidence was lacking heavily.
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Furthermore, the version to which I had originally reverted contained not much more than the NEGATIVE info which I mentioned above. That being the case, a person might actually conclude that I included ONLY unfavorable things about him. Of course, a person would need some objectivity about the
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was a Nobel Prize winner; that didn't make his views on vitamin C as a cancer treatment the majority view. Yes, there are still people out there who think that the grand jury got it wrong. The fact of their existence does not mean that their beliefs should be given special treatment -- such as
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The article I've just read did not mention that Tawana Brawley moved out of New York State and changed her name. It mentions that she converted to Islam, but... Didn't she also join the Nation of Islam? That is a political group, and I think it's worth mentioning that she joined it (IF that's
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HAving gotten caught up in the middle of a Sharpton rally with them throwing objects at myself and my teammates on my way to a high school basketbal practice sinply becuase we were white, I can say with certainty, that even at the time, Tawana Brawley's claims were not "widely given credit" for
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Frankly, I don't think there's a reason to have a pull quote there at all. To put information in a pull quote suggests that it is particularly important information. When the verdict of multiple juries and of history is overwhelmingly that Brawley was a hoaxster and Sharpton, Maddox and Mason
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I modified portions of this article to increase readability, particularly in the intro. Dropped in some new facts and dates as well. I am working on citations for some of the claims. Also modified segments that talked about Sharpton and co's "outrageous" behavior--I think to maintain a NPOV the
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During the arguments, Stanton told jurors that Mason, Brawley's former lawyer, was disbarred for stealing from clients. Mason was disbarred in 1995 for price gouging, theft and abandoning clients. He has claimed his disbarment was an act of revenge by state officials angry over his role in the
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Knowledge and OR is encouraged at Wikinews (such as interviews); it has already been established it can be a source. Additionally, Sharpton's quote shows that he still believes there was enough evidence to go to trial, nothing more, nothing less. The quote is perfectly fine, creates a bridge
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On October 6, 1988, the Abrams Grand Jury released its extensive and thorough 170 page report concluding that Tawana Brawley ("Brawley") had not been abducted, assaulted, raped and sodomized as had been claimed by Brawley and her advisors. The report further concluded that the "unsworn public
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None of sources 4, 5, or 6 state that Brawley "gained notoriety" in November 1987, and in fact no source says so. Brawley was first reported to the police on Saturday, November 28, 1987. Her claims were not widely known until December 1987. Even then, she was widely regarded sympathetically.
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instead is like responding to a request for the thumbnail of a image with the full-sized image itself. (No, not a perfect analogy, but it's hard to find a good clear analogy: there are relatively few collaborative projects out there that are so familiar to everyone that they can be used as
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Not quite. There was never a trial. There was a grand jury investigation that concluded there was no good evidence to charge anyone with the crime of rape and abduction. However, Brawley and her supporters have remained vocal about their side of the story, so the term allegation remains
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It seems that yes, you do think that. However, your thoughts are evidently not based on a viewpoint which is grounded in the actual historical facts... The truth, based on all the extant reliable source factual histories, is that the allegations were 100% false. Thus, this was a hoax.
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The use of Wikinews interviews is currently under discussion; regardless Al Sharpton's perspective in this issue as a major player is not a "minority" view and even if it was, "Minority views" aren't given any less credence than "majority views" when it comes to perspectives.
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Thank you, I am adding it now. It is especially helpful to have this source, as the article only linked to CourtTV for the Grand Jury Report. CourtTV was a good reference, but it has been offline, television and internet, since 2009 or so, and all the article links to it are
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Better, but the article still doesn't say who's responsible for that quote other than "critics", which is vague. You could say "...rather than being given protection by the state. An opinion piece in the New York Times..." etc (or however you wish to describe
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enforcement entirely, and I don't remember her giving interviews to the press either. I left the change as it was because I couldn't say that six was a better number than four, but it sounds like you found a source that supports a rewrite to "about six". —
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weight than majority views. Does putting something in a pull quote represent giving it undue weight? Again, let's look at the policy. "Note that undue weight can be given in several ways, including, but not limited to, depth of detail, quantity of text,
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The quotes you would like to include in the lede are significant. But dropping them in the lede without any context makes them practically meaningless. They belong in the body of the article, with appropriate introductions to put them in context. —
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First of all, you are absolutely right that it depends on your definition of "soon". People often become famous "overnight", whereby literally, one day 99% of the country has not heard of them, and then, less than a week later, 90% of the country
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on Knowledge... I opened an account just for this purpose. I did as much reading of the Wiki Help pages as I could stand (and I feel no closer to knowing if I've done this properly). If I did something wrong trying to ask this question, I'm sure
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Is there any material about the apparent inconsistency between paragraphs one and two of the "possible motives" subsection? As in, if King played a part in faking the scene, Brawley could hardly have been using it to avoid punishment at King's
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the correct way to balance the differing viewpoints that still remain about the Tawana Brawley case. And hopefully, where there is reasonable disagreement, there can be reasonable debate that may resolve the reasonable disagreement. However,
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While seeing the term MAY help some WP readers to acclimate - it is also an emotion laden term that only adds to an already touchy subject. History should be viewed in the context of its time, and saying "mainstream media" deflects from that.
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The recent case of the lacrosse players at Duke University accused of raping a young black woman brings to mind the case of Tawana Brawley, the black teenager who in 1988 made similar charges against a group of white men in Wappinger Falls ,
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Hey Tawana went to my high school (not at the same time). I wonder if there should be some more said about the media circus. I remember this being a HUGE deal at the time and for a while all people knew Poughkeepsie for was Tawana Brawley.
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Where is she now? In 2013, she is over 40 years old. Is she married? Does she have children? When was the last time she appeared on TV, or granted any interviews? Has she had any contact with Sharpton, Mason, or Maddox in recent years?
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allegations against Dutchess County Assistant District Attorney Steven Pagones" were false and had no basis in fact. To issue the report, the Grand Jury heard from 180 witnesses, saw 250 exhibits and recorded over 6,000 pages of testimony.
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I will go ahead and fix it up, but I'm sure something who shares my antipathy for her will mistakenly think this change was made by someone sticking up for her, when in fact it is only the English language I am sticking up for.
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I believe that some people are getting Mason and Maddox confused. If you look up information on why C. Vernon Mason was disbarred, "billing and abandoning clients in an unrelated series of incidents" seems to match it pretty
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Tawana Glenda Brawley (born December 1971 or b. 1972) (sources differ) is an African-American woman from Wappingers Falls, New York, who gained notoriety in November 1987 for falsely accusing four white men of having raped
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in the case -- all of this with the admonition in the edit summary "quotes dont go in lead". Even if "quotations don't go in the introduction" were an established rule (which it is not, being specifically contradicted by
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Maddox was suspended from the practice of law in May 1990 amid his representation of Rev. Al Sharpton in a 67-count indictment ostensibly because he failed and refused to disclose files involving Tawana Brawley and Rev. Al
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There's multiple uses of "claims" and "claimed" in the article. While that's appropriate for Brawley's own statements, under the circumstances, it should be avoided otherwise; "said", "stated", etc, are better, per
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if does indeed turn out to be an error. Namely, I can find indications that Maddox was suspended from the practice of law in New York State (an exception made so that he could continue to represent Al Sharpton)
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to the minority view. Pull quotes are good in newspapers because they not only attract attention, they help to sell the "angle" of the story. However, an "angle" is exactly what Knowledge articles should be
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That's not at all what it says, and if you have a question about it then you should raise it there. Wikinews interviews are reliable sources for the words of what someone says. This issue has been raised on
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The article, while generally well written, slips into journalese in a few places. Examples include "racial tensions climbed" and "the case quickly took on an explosive edge", but the whole thing could use a
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I'm sorry you went through all that, and I'm glad that at least eventually the truth came out. I've also been hurt by racially motivated false accusations, and I'm still waiting for the truth to come out.
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this woman had instantly recognized for the notorious liar that she is, but from the perspective of someone in the Midwest, it was many weeks before the media finally switched sides on this case, which did
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says that "On July 29, 1998 the jury awarded Pagones $ 345,000 in damages. Sharpton was found liable for $ 65,000 of the total damages, Maddox for $ 95,000 and Mason for $ 185,000." Which one is correct?
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One final point; the quotations in the references are helpful, but are somewhat excessive. Can you look at pruning them, and keeping extensive quotations only when we're looking at particularly sensitive
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Its a wiki, it can be edited by anyone and is self-published with no editorial oversight in regards to fact checking. Its no more reliable than a random blog, forum, or any other self-published source.--
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It was only as the evidence against her claims began to mount in early 1988 that public sympathy turned against her. To say that she "gained notoriety" in November 1987 is untrue and absurd on its face.
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The version I inserted mentioned that Maddox was disbarred, what he was disbarred for, and the civil judgement against him. Somehow that doesn't qualify as 'information unfavorable to Maddox' to you.
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The lede has long said six men were accused. This has now been changed to four, but elsewhere in the article we say three. So, which is it, and is there a source in the article for the correct number?
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I'll get some sources for that later today. Eg, see "Legacies of Lynching: Racial Violence and Memory" by Jonathan Markovitz, which has some info, and the book the NY Times reporters wrote, "Outrage."
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both incidents, the charges were seized upon as self-evident, incontrovertible proof of the incorrigible and ineradicable racism that continues to permeate and infect every pore of American society.
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Even apart from the issue of sourcing, which is clearly not so clear-cut as David Shankbone had assured us it was, I still cannot see what formatting that content as a pull quote does except to give
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plausible that one person (TB) lied than "several", but without knowing how many, we don't know how much more plausible, and verification is a higher standard than plausibility in any case.
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Attorney Steven Pagones" were false and had no basis in fact. To issue the report, the Grand Jury heard from 180 witnesses, saw 250 exhibits and recorded more than 6,000 pages of testimony.
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It is also a bunch of BS that someone who changes their name for the SOLE purpose of avoiding a court judgment against her is protected by a website that supposedly wants to be factual.
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Also, the only citation "for widespread criticism of the mainstream press by African American press" is a newspaper in Bluffton, SC. There needs to be more support for the statement. --
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Tawana Glenda Brawley (born 1972) is an African-American woman from Wappingers Falls, New York, who gained notoriety in 1987–88 for falsely accusing four white men of having raped her.
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Actually, I think I've come up with a version that successfully incorporates the use of "notoriety" without damaging the timeline, and also provides a better-written opening sentence.
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I have no problem identifying Tawana Brawley as a person of notoriety. However, that word is misused in the opening paragraph of the article. Here's how it reads at present:
1301:, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
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violation involving her notability and privacy. Tawana Brawley is most certainly notable enough to have her own article and quite frankly, I don’t know why she doesn’t.
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Maddox own article is just a stub at this time. While googling for his name it seems to me that he's whining a lot, that its all a white conspiracy against him, etc. --
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I seem to recall that she ran into legal trouble after her move out of state, but I don't recall the details. I cannot attest to the correctness or veracity of that.
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Well, it wasn't the concept of a black press, but that of a monolithic black press, which bothered me; but if that's what the sources say, let's roll with it.
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the prior wording because it better represents what the sources, which refer to the black press, say. Specifically, they're referring to the black-owned
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