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Union. Never was the Commonwealth construed in a manner that Lithuania (as everyone called the GDL) was subservient legally, socially to Poland (even in the Constitution of 1792). What makes Kosciuszko and Mickiewicz Lithuanian is them being born in Lithuania Proper, both emphasising their Lithuanian history, nobility and traditions. Sure they might not have spoken proficient Lithuanian (although Mickiewicz noted some lines in Lithuanian), but it is an identical case as with Ireland. Same language as their oppresors (UK, more specifically England), yet radically ideas about themselves. Naming Kosciuszko and Mickiewicz as purely "Polish" to their face would have been an insult to them (Koszciuszko manifestly wrote that in his letters ( Korzon, Tadeusz (1894). Kościuszko. Biografia z dokumentów wysnuta. Kraków. p. 206. ). Just because one speaks their whole life in a certain language doesn't mean they are of that language - same for most persons from GDL that modern-day Polish call their "own". If someone identifies themselves as Polish (or Lithuanian or Ukrainian for that matter) speaks his whole life only English (as most of them now in USA do), does that make them both English people? No! So, we should be consistent with our logic and apply it here too. Sure, Lithuanian in beginning of 19th century was not identical to now, it is insane to say that simply because Mickiewicz wrote great poetry in Polish, he is now 100% Polish in modern-day terms. In conclusion, I'll write "Polish-Lithuanian" as a compromise and link it to the article Polish-Lithuanian identity instead of simply "Polish". As always, good faith --
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would have done so. Please don't try to paint him as a 'bad person' for avoiding such legal and prolonged calamity that late in his life. Also, and once again, please don't refer to historians as one unified group in lockstep with your particular view. We've been through this less than honest approach before. After all this time it seems you are still stuck on that number. Before I revert/modify most of your edits I will give you a chance to refer to Hodges 254-256, pages you seemed to have ignored, for commentary. You should have discussed the changes before making so many. The article, before your edits passed a GA review without commentary about selected, cherry picked authors, and had the approval and scrutiny of the editors involved. And btw, Jefferson had many slaves that Kościuszko hoped Jefferson would free. This is not the place to air commentary about Hemings and her children, per undue weight and POV considerations. --
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commentary on this issues by burying them in footnotes. Historians have recently looked at this issue and criticized Jefferson for failing to use the money and the power of his prestige to at least free some of his own slaves, which could have relieved his own financial distress. People can use other sources that support Jefferson's refusal to carry out the bequest, but they should not be distorting Nash and Hodges' position; they did not conclude that Jefferson was right in his actions, as was previously suggested here - in the Lead and in the lengthier discussion. Jefferson created more complexity. The discussion on this issue deserves place in the article - for instance, Nash and Hodges noted distortions in 1820 in how the terms of the bequest were presented publicly. This needs to be accurate.
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academia have attempted to attack Jefferson on a superficial premise because he turned down Kościuszko's request and ignore the fact that Jefferson knew all to well about the legal hornet's nest he was being asked to oversee, and at age 77 it is more than understandable he declined such an undertaking. As I mentioned in the text (that was approved for GA), 'Jefferson was right', as he would have been faced with Kościuszko's relatives, con-men and others who indeed came out of the woodwork and challenged the will. And as it turns out, one of the administrators embezzled most of the funds in the process of all the litigation. --
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currently supported in this article by refs using Monica Mary Gardner and Nash & Hodges, is that a school for African Americans was established and that it was funded by the estate. Per Nash & Hodges: “Unlike Kosciusko, who intended to make a major stroke against slavery with his bequest, Lear had to settle for a small school far away from the areas…” (p. 242) (Lear was the executor at that time). No mention of using the funds to buy freedom. The other statement, supported by Storozynski, is that none of the money was used for its intended purposes. (See Storozynski, (p. 282,
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Jefferson "would have done so if he could". Not a question of whether he was "right" or not. They clearly thought he could have used his power/prestige to have made some changes. I'm not painting Jefferson as anything. If this source is to be used, the historians should be accurately represented. Nash/Hodges referred to Hemings and her children; they did not suggest they were the only slaves he could have freed. Gordon-Reed noted that Jefferson had valid reasons for not acting as executor, which is why she is used as a source for a differing point of view.
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educational institute for African Americans in the United States." For me, this seems to be contradictory: It says no money was used for education of african americans and in the next sentence it says the money (or parts of it) was used to found a school for arican americans, which for me sounds like eduction for african americans. If there are sources for both, I think there should be a decision for one which is more plausible or it should be stated as an open question - like this it just is confusing.--
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this is not an article about Jefferson, nor is it one of anyone else, yet their names are mentioned about the page. Including 'also' reflects the facts, and doesn't turn the page into something 'about' Jefferson. No one made an issue with 'also' during the previous nomination, and there is no factual reason why one should be raised in the future. Any issue created along this line can easily be addressed. Kosciuszko entrusted Jefferson with his bequest because he knew Jefferson opposed slavery. --
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Jefferson was "right" in his assessment, and the political problems led the nation to war...) - rather, Nash and Hodges note what Jefferson said, and how he created even more problems, and criticized him for not carrying out the bequest and exerting his prestige to make it happen. They also note the distortions in what was publicized in 1820 about the terms of the bequest. Similarly, other commentary about this should not be hidden in references, but addressed as cited sources in the article.
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fields, most suitably in the 'publication=' field, so it would read: 'Smith & Jones Publishers, 123 pages'. I added a note at the top of the Bibliography that says the 'p.' in the bibliography denotes the total number of pages. If this is not suitable then we can make the change as you suggest. Reminder, both the Kosciuszko and Pulaski articles made GA using the present convention. Let's get some more feed back before we make any changes. --
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demonstrated in bold above), which I find sort of annoying, esp when there are many of them scattered throughout the text. Makes it very difficult to visually navigate and edit the mark up. In any case, it's no big issue with me per any given article. Just wanted to let Novickas know what the number stood for when he removed it thinking it was an actual page number citation, which are not found in bibliographies but under 'References'. --
1255: 980: 418: 788: 949: 1303: 3163: 1627: 2630:. This phrase gives me some pause -"Białoruski biograf Kościuszki Józef Jucho również wskazuje na Siechnowicze, uważając że początkowo był on ochrzczony w obrządku wschodnim." Specifically, the word uważając. It could mean either that " considers that he was first baptized in the Orthodox church ..." or “ considering that he was first baptized in the Orthodox church..." Is Fionik speaking for himself here or for Jucho? 371: 273: 596: 252: 1433: 1412: 4027:
Russian Empire on occupied lands. Now there are many sources which could prove either Polish or Belarusian nationality of TK. There is an information about it in the text of article but there is no such statement in it's preamble. In Eastern-Slavic Wikipedias we usually put all the possible nationalities into preamble to add more neutrality to it. So I offer to add this information to the preamble. --
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the prose too much because when this starts to happen the text starts to read like a police report. One of the FA requirements is a well written article that affords a fair amount of details, context and in depth coverage. Also, unless it is a minor tweak, spelling, etc, editors are encouraged to make
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is an overview of the article's topic that should be based on the article itself. But as it stands now, it looks rather untenable to me. Until now, the article doesn't mention freemasonry at all, and as I'm fascinated by Kościuszko, I have quite extensively read about him, and never found anything in
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there - there may have been no German edition prior to Kościuszko's death. I strongly suspect that the source given may be in error and it was not a German, but a French edition. So, did Kościuszko speak/read German? Though he spent his last years in Solothurn (Soleure) in the German-speaking part of
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There is an alternative opinion that TK was a Belarusian. Actually Belarusian nation hasn't been formed yet in the beginning of the 19-th century. But he claimed himself to be Litwin. Belarusian historyography has an opinion that Litwins has just been renamed into Belarusians because of the policy of
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A politically charged newspaper article isn't what I would think establishes Washington as a traitor nearly in the same order that Arnold was. Was this all that came up in the google search? I was referring to sources. By this way of thinking I suppose we could call anyone who 'revolted' a traitor --
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Go ahead. I have to admit I've lost heart; I am expecting somebody (or several somebodies) will find some English prose items to nitpick again, and they'll fail this article again. I am having serious doubts whether any prose written by a non-English speaker, or outside of "friends and collegues" who
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I propose, for the lead, just saying 'Jefferson declined to execute the bequest, which was beset by numerous legal complications and may never have been used for its intended purposes.” Then in the will section: “Historians offer varying accounts of whether the funds were ever used to free or educate
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Well, yes and no. He was pardoned by the British for fighting on the American side -- because he switched sides. The fact that he was pardoned by the enemy, due to giving aid and comfort to that enemy, did not in any way absolve him of the treason charge on the American side. Once again, you would
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article - not here. Why not stick to the indisputable 'he asked his friend Cooke to act as executor, but he also refused'? But...this is kind of a Featured Article-level disagreement and there are no signs that it's going to be re-nommed soon. If that happens we could revisit this disagreement then.
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Could I persuade you to put p. or pages before number of pages in the bibliography, rather than after it? That is, as ".1,234 pages." or ".1,234 p." rather than "p. 1,234"? Our regional library catalog notes a book's number of pages as p. 1,234, as does the Library of Congress (there, it's helpfully
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While many of the recent edits made by another editor were improvements, more care needs to be given when important and definitive items and historical context are deleted. e.g. Mention of Benedict Arnold being a traitor was removed. While condensing the text can be helpful we don't want to truncate
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Lithuania, as Mickiewicz and Kosciuszko called it, are in no way to be regarded as a Polish region. The PLC was two separate countries: the "Crown of Poland" and the "Grand Duchy of Lithuania" under one king, but with separate armies, treasuries, etc... Sort of (not entirely) a parallel to European
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Pan Piotr, I could give You 8 sources, but they are not in English. By the way, one of them is in Polish: "Kościuszko, biografia z dokumentów wysnuta" by Tadeusz Korzan (1894. Krakow, Warszawa). It states some facts about the origin of his family, which was not from the modern Poland lands. But, in
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Yes we are getting a little far afield. All that was said was Arnold "turned traitor". I suppose we could say the same of Washington if we were referring to a given incident/time, as we were with Arnold. However, Washington's "treason" was preceded by years of debate, acute indifference and finally
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I don't like it - this article is about Kosciusko, not Jefferson. Jefferson's stance on slavery is unlikely to be settled soon. If we include 'also', then to be fair, we would need to include a bunch of other dissenting historians' opinions about Jefferson and slavery, which would seriously clutter
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Two, there are two practically identical sentences about the will, right next to each other, one in the Later life section and one in the immediately following will section. Maybe the will doesn't need its own section? Moving the current wills content into the later life section, with a wikilink to
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There are real problems with an editor's interpretation of Nash and Hodges' book, which explores why Jefferson refused to carry out Kosciusko's bequest to free his slaves. The position of Nash/Hodges was distorted as written here and original research/opinion is added in the previous account (i.e.,
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Thank you, though I actually have Storozynski's biography here as well (and some other works about Kościuszko) and can't remember having seen a clear statement about Kościuszko's languages therein, I also will try to find something by browsing through the book again - in any case, there's no entry
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We originally had a lot of support, then a few minor issues came up, but because the discussions dragged out so long, the nomination went ka-put! In any case, the article has improved since then so there shouldn't be any difficulty, none that we can't handle anyways. If no one sees any issues that
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We have contradictory sentences in the Disposition of American estate section and in the lead with regard to whether any of his US assets were used to free and/or educate slaves. Each of the oppositional assertions are supported by their refs. Of the two statements in the disposition section, one,
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I have no objections with denoting "123 pages" but we are dealing with a template that automatically places data in the given fields in a certain order with a specific format. If we are not going to use the 'pages=' field to indicate page totals then we will have to type it out in one of the other
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That was a hypothetical situation, posed to law students as a training exercise. I know of no credible real-world historian, either American or British, who ever actually accused Washington of treason -- and we're getting quite far afield here. Arnold was, and continues to be accused of treason
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No one said that we should include historian's opinions of Jefferson here. We go by facts. The fact is Jefferson said and did much to oppose slavery. This is not an opinion because the proof is in his writings and political actions, so any reference, direct or indirect, needs to reflect this. No,
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My point was that the source, Nash/Hodges, which was already cited in the article, needed to be accurately represented. They discussed Jefferson's reservations, but had a different opinion as to whether he could or should have undertaken the execution of the will. It is only anyone's opinion that
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is relatively reliable, but the translation os "considers", i.e. it attributes this theory to a particular scholar. I am ok with adding this to the article, properly attributed, perhaps as a note - "Belarussian scholar Józef Jucho also proposed, that K. was baptised in an Eastern Orthodox rite."
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Three actionable things. One, we aren't given a reason as to why he went to France in 1798, just a dramatic introduction: "In March 1798 Kościuszko received a bundle of letters from Europe. The news in one of them came as a shock to him, causing him, in his crippled condition, to spring from his
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The sentence "he left Vienna and moved to Solothurn, Switzerland, where his friend Franciszek Zeltner was mayor" is definitely wrong. Zeltner's first name is not Franciszek but Franz Xaver (he was Swiss, not Polish). He wasn't the mayor of Solothurn either, "only" the brother of the former Swiss
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Some of your edits were however appropriate. Have added some content from an existing source, regarding litigation, embezzlement, etc, w/ citation. Btw, please keep 'Cite book' and 'Cite web' info in the bibliography. One of the reasons this article was granted GA status is becuase the text was
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Jefferson was indeed right. Kościuszko's relative did challenge the will and Virginia law did in fact forbid that such a bequest be honored. This is not a "private opinion". If Jefferson could have honored the will, at that late date in his life, without all the legal and social complications he
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If a common phrase is involved and it employs 'less than perfect English' I think we can let it ride. Was there a particular phrase that gave us issues before -- I don't remember any. Seems most of the issues were along historical lines, and from what I can see, they've been resolved. Come on,
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I restored 'also' to 'opposed slavery', as numerous sources cite Jefferson opposing slavery all his life, in his letters, writings, political involvements, etc, while owning slaves. Some historians of course question his sincerity, but that is speculation -- much of it politically and socially
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One of the main reasons Kościuszko is notable is because he was a good friend of Thomas Jefferson and was made executor of his Will, so on that note we should give the Will a bit more than summary coverage/weight as overall topics in the article go, IMO. However, much of so called "modern" day
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Parkwells, on second thought some of your edits were fine, however I think Nash and Hodges were given a bit too much 'air time'. I have to admit I was surprised to see Reed, of all people, showing understanding for Jefferson's decision, so on that note, I will return some of Nash (Russell) and
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I was searching for the incident a decade ago where Washington was branded a traitor in parliament. This set off a public debate at the time as to whether his treason was justifiable or not in the UK, while in the US there was a push to rehabilitate Arnold, which is still underway apparently.
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Sorry to bring this up again, but currently the text reads "None of the money that Kościuszko had earmarked for the manumission and education of African Americans in the United States was ever used for that purpose. Though the American will was never carried out, its legacy went to found an
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There seems to have been a misinterpretation of Nash/Hodges' book that explores Jefferson's refusal to carry out K's bequest to use his money in the US to buy freedom for slaves and educate them. In addition, an editor interjected private opinion (Jefferson was right), and hid other sources
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cite the respective people to reveal their ideas and how THEY perceived the world. Kosciuszko is a very important European figure and should be revealed in a holistic manner as such (naturally avoiding Original Research as much as possible). Knowledge needs to show an authentic Kosciuszko.
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No, you don't have to list number of pages, it's something I've done in several bibliographies. Gives you an idea of how extensive the coverage is. Also, when 'pages=123' is used in a 'cite book' template it's usually done so when the template is inserted into the text as a citation (as I
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I think you are right 100%. The fact is, he even referred to him as a Litvin once, and at the time that was the only way for someone to identify as a Belarusian. What you said is true, Russians were the once who started calling the Litvins Belarusians for political reasons. I would use
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The first sentence of the article is anachronistic: "... became a national hero in Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, and the United States." Belarus did not become a nation until long after his death. Better would be "... became a national hero in Poland-Lithuania and the United States."
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About the dual baptism. I think it likely that Mr Krol had insider information about this from his contacts in Belarus. It's probably written somewhere else, but it would be hard to find. IMO it's not worth getting wrapped around the axle about, so it's OK with me to leave it out.
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The article doesn't mention Kościuszko's command of languages. It seems self-evident from the biography that he at least spoke his native Polish, English, and French, probably also Russian (?), but what about German? - I'm asking this question because according to the article
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the available biographies mentioning that he was a Freemason. For example, there's nothing in Alex Storozynski's biography "The Peasant Prince" (Masons are mentioned there a few times, but never stating that Kościuszko was one). On the contrary, it seems that, according to
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Hodges' comments because it is balanced with other comments. Let's keep Hemings out of the picture however because Kościuszko's wishes were aimed at the plight of slaves in general. He did not mention or have particular concern for Hemings on an individual basis. --
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As we know Freemasons keep their secrets to themselves, so it is clear that there are not any public records about Kościuszko being a Freemason. The only thing out there are records of two Masonic Lodges where Kościuszko is mentioned: the first one in Bydgoszcz,
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blocked on 18 January 2013 by AGK with an expiry time of indefinite, and indefinitely topic-banned from all edits relating to race and ethnicity as well. Please check the content for accuracy with special consideration given to heritage, purported by any of the
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I would say not to. While boldness is appropriate at times, doing something different from probably almost all articles on Knowledge does not seem to me to be the way to attract support for advancement of this article. FAC is very much about doing things
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In the context as it is discussed in this article I would agree that that the term traitor is more accurate in describing Arnold as he is mentioned only in passing here. In the Arnold bio the term switching sides is done liberally which better suits that
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Apparently, at long last, we have fixed and tweaked this article more than any other on the planet, it seems. If there's any last items to fix or adjust, let's do it before we put this article on the FA chopping block again, which I hope will be soon. --
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As I've asserted before, Kosciuszko's will is one of the key features in the biography as it reflects intimately on Kosciuszko the man and deserves more than a passing mention in his biography here. If there is a wide textual overlap in this and the
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A quick ask of Google Maps instantly found me eight streets named after him here in Australia. I am certain there would be more than that if I narrowed down my search. We won't be mentioning them all, so I cannot see us mentioning the one in LA.
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made giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the King treason. But Arnold was pardoned and given a brigadier general's commission. I'm sure that you can find sources that call him a traitor but they do not have to adhere to our NPOV policy.
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this article. If you have reliable sources to the effect, as you say above, that those historians who question Jefferson's opposition to slavery are/were speculative and politically/socially motivated, those should go in the Jefferson or the
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This is clearly the sort of thing we could argue about forever...and in the meantime the article wouldn't be improved. I'm willing to let it go. Let's move on. I see there is more material about why he left the US in 1799. Will add soon.
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Freemasons today aren't as secretive as they used to be. The Bydgoszcz list doesn't seem very convincing to me, it might in part be based on mere assumptions (as stated in the American article I linked to above, it would have been very
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Kościuszko identified as Lithuanian: "“What am I if not a Lithuanian, one of your chosen countrymen?… Whom should I defend if not you and myself?… It angers me to be away from Lithuania and serving in Poland…” –Thaddeus Kosciusko"
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in Kościuszko's time and given his circle of friends in America that he would have been made a Freemason; but apparently, the Masons of America can't find anything supporting that). The New York page you link to is nothing but a
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but can't tell if that's the normal English pronunciation there, or if he's trying to approximate the Polish for his Polish guests. Does anyone know? Do people give the man the common Usonian and Australian pronunciation of
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and if possible add the location ( |location=xxx ) to its 'cite book' entry in the bibliography? It's probably in Poland but I didn't see anything to that effect. The city name would be nice also if that's possible. Thanx. --
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my opinion, the best source is the mail from Kasciuszka to the Russian Emperor Alexander I, where Tadeusz wrote: «I was born litvin...» The mail is quoted in many literatural sources. Is it enough to write: «... was a Polish-
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with Volunteer Marek. No need to be deliberating about opinionated issues where content is involved unless there is a clear case of NPOV or other such policy violations, or otherwise outright false statements, involved. --
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I would consider adding the Polish pronounciation of his name to the lead. It goes like this:"taˈdɛuʂ kɔɕˈt͡ɕuʂkɔ". If editors involved in this article agree and reviewed this it should be moved the the article.
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I'll work on a summary and work this into the paragraph in the 'Later life' section that mentions the "bundle of letters". As I also said before, I'll let you two sort of the details of Kosciuszko's baptism. --
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Since there seem to be no further objections I have just added 'became a traitor' to the narrative, per discussions and sources. If this is still an issue please discuss before making any contested reverts. --
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Switzerland, I think he would have managed with French there, as his hosts and all educated people there also spoke French. - Anyway, I would welcome some small paragraph regarding Kościuszko's languages.
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I am done expanding this article with Storozynski. At this point the article could use a language copyediting by a native speaker of English before we can submit it for a Good Article. Any volunteers? --
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The bundle of letters, one of which caused Kosciuszko to hastily depart for France, "at once", contained the news that Polish soldiers were fighting under Napoleon in France and that his two nephews...
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HorCrux48's first, unsourced edit here, I think there should be a part in the main body of the article, if this addition proves tenable, giving some detail regarding Kościuszko as a Freemason, as the
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I agree as well. The "official" (i.e. legal) definition of a traitor is one who "gives aid and comfort to the enemy". You don't have to be a citizen of any particular country to commit treason.
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I personally think "became a traitor against the Americans" is redundant and awkward, not to mention self-evident. But if it'll settle this tempest in a teapot, I won't object too strenuously.
2861:. The secondary entry is "something left or handed down by a predecessor:the legacy of centuries of neglect." Since Gardner doesn't explicate her usage of the word, I think it's better left out. 2214:
Missing famous Jefferson quote to Gates about Kościuszko: "He is the purest son of liberty among you all that I have ever known, the kind of liberty which extends to all, not only to the rich."
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Why is Kościuszko categorized as "Polish Roman Catholic"? This is an absurd as he was known for his anticlericalism and fierce criticism of Catholic Church and organized religion as such. E.g:
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For now I've removed any mentions of him, he doesn't seem that relevant to this article. That said, he is notable in general, and it would be good if somebody would stub an article for him. --
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rebellion, unlike Arnold who preported to be an American and fought on the American side. Washington never raised arms against the Americans and then "switched sides" and joined them. --
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I'd like to learn more about those letters, too. PSB does not mention any letters (or anything else) in March; it does however mention that K. was leaving to Europe on an invitation by
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as a source, which apparently is a page of a Masonic lodge in Bydgoszcz, Poland, listing famous Poles who, according to this list, were Freemasons. Well, as I already commented when I
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had been sent in the name of Kościuszko by their mother to Bonaparte with the prayer that they might serve in his ranks. By the end of June, 1798, Kościuszko was in France, in Bayonne
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In Wiktionary there are several various definitions that refer to other things besides "country", which is a legal technicality really. They all have this one underlying principle:
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No mention of the street in Los Angeles named after him?? It one of the only streets to get you to “ grand lower st” where a bunch of tv commercials were filmed over many decades
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quotes as saying “He refused to execute this project and as a result the bequest was diverted to other purposes which had nothing to do with furthering the education of blacks.”
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Sounds like a not-very-good attempt to pronounce the Polish, but I'll include it since it's West Point. It would be helpful if we had someone here from West Point to verify. —
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It's been a good number of months since we last tried to get FA status for this article. Unless there are no other issues to deal with we should resubmit and go for it again. --
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page, whose sources it presumably shares). I'll go ahead and try to give that page some sources; if they're necessary here, kindly copy them over and restore any blanked info. —
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Not really. "became" means that it has already happened but there is no implication that it happened during his life time. This is also a bit of unnecessary splitting of hairs.
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go towards at least the education of slaves. We have one modern work by historians that asserts that it did –Nash & Hodges –along with one rather old one by biographer
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I don't recall from the sources I read anything about him speaking German. However, querying Polish sources suggest that he did know German; this is stated clearly in
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When I come across opposing statements I usually add a footnote for clarification. Since the school referred to does in fact exist we could instead have the lede read
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I re-read PSB bio and there's nothing about languages there. I'll have access to Strozynski's bio around XMAS/winter, please ping me then if I forget to post here. --
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What he did was no different to what Washington did, which is the definition of treason. Washington is generally regarded as such by historians of the period. (eg.
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Yes, pardoned or not, it doesn't change the fact that Arnold committed treason and since then has been widely known as a traitor. If we were to say he was a "
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cleaned up and the bibliography was structured and consistent with its source formatting, ala 'Cite book' and 'ref tag' links to sources in bibliography. --
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There seems to be quite a few links in the lede which I think would be better if they occurred in the body of the text, esp common knowledge links, such as
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that Kościuszko was one, without further research, is not surprising. But as it stands, I still maintain that we don't have a real base for your addition.
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Well, I added "against the Americans" for the sake of appeasing any reservations about neutrality. I would prefer also to just say "became a traitor". --
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Yes, he was pardoned by the British. I presume that loyalists enjoyed a blanket pardon in the United States but I'm not an expert on the modern period.
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could cause it to get bumped from the article. Personally, I feel that info sourced on a linked page should be fine but (a) ymmv and (b) that article
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Mongo, why did you remove links for 'artillery' and 'garrison'? They were not linked anywhere else in the article. I have restored these links. --
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has expressed the opinion that K.'s baptism in the Orthodox church is a fringe theory. But I've found a website (in Polish) that discusses this.
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military engineer and a military leader who became a national hero in Poland, Belarus, and the United States?» Or do You need more sources? --
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in a "Grand Lecturer's Blog" - not mentioning any direct connection of Kościuszko to Freemasonry. That occasionally Freemasons would simply
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Brigadier General commission, and after the war lived the rest of his life in England. You would be hard put to find a source that does
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is synonymous with Arnold and almost all sources have always used this term. Most importantly, the reference (#40) for this statement
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against the American side, because what he did was (and is) the very definition of treason.
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Yes, but we should at least say he was baptized a Catholic and given his names. --
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legacy went to found the coloured school at Newark...which bore Kościuszko's name.
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as a compromise as well, as the Belarusians were included in that general term.
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