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3246:, despite repeated warnings to stop. We are discussing now, which is positive, but only if that discussion leads to a consensus for your preferred edits should they be enacted on the article. So I've undone your edit again, and am stating very clearly that if you revert again I will request make a report regarding your edit warring here. On the subject itself, we have two dates important to Robbie's departure: the date he was last actively part of Take That (in 2012), and the date that his departure was announced (2014). Per the above, I believe that his actual activity in the band supersedes any announcement date, which can be (and is) covered in the text of the article. Same goes for the band's 1996 break-up, which I changed from the date it was announced to the date a couple of months later when they actually ceased activities as a band. 2966:
try and explain my own perspective. As you may or may not be aware, the nature of Williams' membership of the group is currently the most contentious aspect of this whole page - it makes up a large proportion of all the edits and reversions here. The "inactive member" angle has been implemented before, but has proven controversial - the consensus on the page at present is that Williams should not currently be considered a member of the group. In my opinion, Barlow's comments in interviews about the band having an open door policy do not equate to an official statement that Williams is currently a member of the group. As you note, it is obviously a complicated matter since Williams does do the odd performance with the band from time to time, but the position of the band's official website is that:
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membership of the group. It was a debatable matter then, and it's still a debatable matter now. The original date the members graph stated that Williams had left was the 29 of July 2011. Since then, the members graph has rightfully undergone lots of revisions by other editors, and the consensus seems to have been that representing Williams' second departure date as 2012 was favorable. I'm largely ambivalent as to whether 2011 or 2012 is used (as long as one of the two is); my greatest desire is just to reach a firm consensus, as this aspect of the page has disproportionately been the subject of much ire and drive-by vandalisms for almost six years now.
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could likely find someone notable effusing praise about any boyband, particularly after they 'breakup'. I say this being aware that the response will be along the lines of "well, if you don't like it, edit it with sources" yada, yada. But I really don't have the interest to do that. I just clicked through on a link that had their 2006 album as 'high selling' and thought to myself "weren't they a nineties band? How are they having success on that scale in 2006?". The article doesn't really answer that except to say 'They are so talented and beautiful and they write such good songs. Everyone thinks they are the greatest band since sliced cheese'.
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is grammatically correct, as long as the article uses one or the other consistently throughout; and Jason's line on the Members graph certainly used to be orange when I first created it - I'd totally agree with it being changed back (I seem to remember the rationale another editor used for altering it was to make the line colours consistent with the microphone colours the band members use when on tour). Feel free to discuss further :) Also, if you're new to Knowledge, you might want to check out
73: 2881:-5 November 2012 IS CURRENTLY THE LAST TIME ROBBIE WILLIAMS WAS A MEMBER OF TAKE THAT. THOUGH HE WILL MORE THAN LIKELY REJOIN THE BAND AGAIN IN THE FUTURE, HE IS NOT CURRENTLY INVOLVED WITH TAKE THAT, OTHER THAN FOR OCCASIONAL ONE-OFF PERFORMANCES. HIS LINE ON THIS GRAPH THEREFORE TERMINATES AT THE LAST TIME HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE BAND IN A CONSTRUCTIVE CAPACITY. PLEASE DISCUSS ON THE ARTICLE TALK PAGE BEFORE CHANGING THE DATES RELATED TO WILLIAMS ABOVE.- 1368:
BAND are splitting up (i.e. the other four members). It does not suggest anything about Robbie Williams, though the statement makes it clear that he is welcome to rejoin the band whenever he wishes though there are no current plans for him to work with the band again. It is quite apparent that Williams has clearly left the band and should be listed as an ex member until an official announcement is made that clearly states he is working with them again.
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asking - if it is so, then something else ought to be said in the article. If not, then I agree that the material that is now shown under other media is probably good enough for now. After the musical opens on the West End, if it becomes a really big hit, then perhaps a little more about it will be of interest in this article. Best regards, everyone, and try to be calm. --
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significant contribution to the band whatsoever since the Progress tour and the Progressed promo stuff wrapped up). My issue has largely been with the addition of 'occasional appearances' to the Members graph, and misleading statements about the nature of Williams' non-membership at present in the article body. As long as that stuff stays out of the article, I'm happy. --
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Olympics closing ceremony in 2012, but then pulling out, and actually performing with them later in the year - but only for one song. Certainly it was not generally accepted he had left at this time, hence the speculation around if he was involved in the return to the studio in 2014 and the later announcement that he was not. So what might be a good idea -
1206:. They have not left each other's company, Robbie is releasing a solo album whilst Take That have their annual year off after their tour. Until the band state otherwise officially through their website or appropriate channels, Robbie is still part of Take That. Tabloid rumour mill is not good enough, we need an official statement before changing anything. 465: 2333: 1938: 3517: 2913:. Since Robbie has been in and out of Take That, and still considers himself part of the group, plus the rest of the band members always being welcoming with open arms when performing with him anytime (The X Factor 2018 Finals, for example), I believe this change will make readers understand Robbie's situation in Take That much more easily. 4006:
with the band in 2012 at the Music Industry Trust Awards. as said before he offically first left the band in 2014. and after that he had preformed with the group several times, examples in 2016, 2017 and 2018 but only as a guest. On May 2020 he offically rejoined the band for a one/off performance, after a 6 year hiatus from the group.
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But if we aren't writing this in the article, i kinda feel like we are giving false infomation about williams' activity in the band. Robbie Williams active years in the band were from 1989 to 1995 and at the progress recordings in 2009 to 2014 right before the recordings on III, but he last preformed
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Apologies for editing without noticing this section previously. However, this certainly isn't as clear cut as the above suggests. Robbie's departure was announced - and indeed confirmed - in 2014, but the sources are clear that (unlike Jason) he never resumed activity with the band after the Progress
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I therefore personally feel like it misrepresents the situation to use the term inactive member, and in particular, I feel it is misleading for the Members graph to imply that Williams has made any significant contribution to the band since 2012. A few minor things too; either Williams' or Williams's
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The musical is not unofficial? Whether Take That are 'officially backing the musical or not does not change the point that it is a 'Take That' Musical. It is referred to in the press as the 'Take That' Musical and it is based solely on the music of 'Take That' . The music has very officially been
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As I noted in the talk page section above, the reports that Robbie had left the band in October 2011 were directly refuted at the time. This is, however, complicated by some of the above articles being dated later in that month. Further complicated by Robbie being due to perform with the band at the
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Regardless of how many sources you have 93.164.22.202, you need to watch your tone, as being impertinent will make it a lot less likely that other users will support your position. Remember that many of the editors you're insulting have already put a lot of unpaid time into improving and maintaining
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I completely disagree... Robbie didn’t have anything to do with take that in 2012, his last appearance in the group was in 2011 and he officially makes his second departure in 2014. So if you ask me I’ll say that he left on April 24th 2014. Please link me the article where it says that he was a part
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I was wondering why you keep changing on when Robbie left take that. No sources tells that he left in 2012 but different tells that he left the group right after “the progress tour“ in 2011 and some other says in 2014 right before the recordings of the “lll” album took place, causing Robbie became a
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Thanks for discussing, I'm eager to see this resolved at this point. I can't speak for other editors, but on my own behalf I'll give in gracefully re. the 2014 date (although I will note that a) there are news articles from 2011 and 2012 that suggest Williams left earlier, and b) he has not made any
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People adding 'Hiatus as of 2012' (or similar text) to the years active section, then others removing it again in a seemingly never-ending war is really starting to annoy me. Can we please decide once and for all; Are they on a Hiatus or not, and if so, is this noteworthy enough to put at the top of
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Robbie Williams only rejoined Take That for one year. The official press statement made in 2010 stated this quite clearly. Now that year is up, he's left again. It was only a temporary arrangement, and that was made clear all along. The press statements made in Oct 2011 are refuting rumours that THE
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It's not a "tabloid rumour" if Gary Barlow has actually stated to the press that Robbie Williams has left Take That. I agree that we need to look into finding more supportive evidence that Barlow has made such a statement, but as it currently stands it's more than just a rumour from the mill, it's a
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I think that Robbie left because he wanted to be something more than a backing vocal singer. So he became a solo artist. Yes you maybe thinking that I made this up because he came back to help them with the flood album. I think that that is because he thought that by coming back to them he may stay
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states that it must be used instead of a non-free image. BUT, there must be a better free image out there. Thousands of people must have taken photos at their recent shows, and I'm pretty sure one of them would like their photo at the top of the Knowledge article. I'll try to scour some forums.
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need to stop vandalising this page. The band have clarified that they don't support the musical nor have any connection to it other than their songs being featured in in. EITHER WAY the information about the musical can go on it's OWN page (which it has one already filled by you), not the Take That
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Williams rejoined Take That for a one/off performance i maj 2020, during the covid-19 charity gig. He appeared as a full time member, and i think that we should include it in his timeline in the article, i've been doing some researching and many newspapers in the UK, describe it as Williams' first
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majority of people who edit this aspect of the article don't bother. I'll start by emphasising that I won't be making any changes to your edits until a consensus on this matter is reached by you/me/other interested editors. I don't know if there will be any other editors who reply to you, but I'll
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Sorry to butt into this discussion, but the more interesting question for THIS article is, what effect has the musical had on the band, if any? Did the creation of, publicity for, and tour of the musical actually help the band popularise its comeback? I have no idea if this is relevant, I'm just
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A couple of hours-long reunion (for a live show) is not sufficient to count as a reunion. Publicity and press for the event may suggest otherwise, but you've got to appreciate that headlines about Williams rejoining Take That are a great source of clickbait revenue for journalists, rather than an
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Other material you are currently persistently reverting is: section headings to include first names of members and wording around Gary Barlow's stillborn child. These appear to be uncontroversial edits to me, but you're welcome to discuss them too if you have any rationale for changing them back.
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On 28 April 2014, Williams announced on Twitter he was to become a dad for a second time, and consequently suggested he would be unable to join Take That on their album and tour. Although welcome to return to the band at any time, Williams chose not to return for group's seventh and eighth studio
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It's mostly stylistic choices, and choices about what is included vs excluded, but it reads so much like a fan page or record company bio. Just because you find a citation saying 'Greatest boyband eva' or whatever, doesn't really mean that it is true, you know what I mean? I've a feeling that you
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You're right. We need to focus on the circumstances in which Williams left the group; specifically his drug and alcohol abuse, friction with the other members, etc. As well as his conflict of ideas with Barlow over the group's material, Williams' problems with Nigel Martin-Smith should be covered
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for his final appearance in November of that year. It could be argued that 2011 is more accurate - implementing this would involve editing more than just the band members section so the article agrees with itself, and also a consensus to do so. No objection to that if other editors agree. Per to
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Thanks for the ping KyleJoan. Momentarily ignoring the fact that the current revision of the page is an absolute mess, I'll state my position. When I implemented the members graph back in 2014, it was in response to much the same debates which continue now, about the precise dates of Williams'
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As it's incredibly unlikely that users would type "Take That" into the search box and expect to arrive at the page to an article practically (it seems) unconnected with the band, and as the titles are not even close in being similar, this usage of disambiguation links is incorrect in my view.
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version and show should remain unless there is agreement to change it. You have been warned about this (and even blocked from editing) previously. The Newsround source does indeed report that Robbie had left in 2011, which could be integrated into the text of the article, but
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The musical is unofficial, so only warrants ONE mention in the 'Other Media' section - not a link at the TOP of the Take That page, a separate weblink, an image AND a paragraph about it along with the 'other media' point. This is blatant advertising, not information and you
3206:. I will have to ask for admin intervention if you continue to edit unconstructively. Please also be aware that the reversion you are making is undoing multiple other recent edits. I have nothing to add to my above rationale regarding Robbie's second departure date, which 1108:
I corrected many pages noting the Sony/BMG issues, BMG and Sony were separate major record labels when Take That was signed to BMG, so they never were with Sony, I corrected the 1st page and debut album to BMG, Sony has BMG now, but at that time, it was not the case.
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I am aware that Knowledge does not look too kindly on Country-specific singles, but I am equally certain that if it is not deserving of it's own article, this single should at least merit a mention in the main text of this article and within the singles area of
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David Munns, chairman of the award committee, said of Barlow: "He is one of the UK's most accomplished artists - a unique musician, songwriter and producer who embodies both success and distinction, and who serves as a dedicated ambassador for many charities.
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Yes, as has been discussed that is the date that Robbie's departure was announced, the wording of which is clear that he never returned after that last performance in 2012. Orange, on the other hand, reconvened with the band during 2014 and quit soon after.
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Since last restoring of the article of take that, there's now very much false information on the article so the page can no longer be trusted, therefore i recommend people who wants to read whats right to check the take that article on takethat.fandom.com.
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I found this from the article and it was proves that Robbie left the group on April 28 2014 and not in 2012, like some people mean he did. Please stop editing the page, Robbie Willams was a part of the group from 1990 till 1995 and again in 2010 till 2014.
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albums and their accompanying tours, focusing instead on his solo commitments. He continued to write music with his colleagues and performed with the group on several occasions since 2011's Progress tour and plans on returning at some point in the future.
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He didn't only make an guest appearance in the group, he rejoined the band and i think that makes a difference. Please think about it, and maybe we can discuss how we write it in the article... my example: Robbie Williams (1990–1995, 2010–2012, 2020)
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I am confused because this page describes Robbie Williams as "originally part of the line up", and is also listed on the list of "former members." That's fine, but the page for Robbie Williams himself reads "He is a member of Take That." Just wondering.
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and make more money. But it turns out he was wrong the only solo bit he did in it was parts of 'the flood' and 'S.O.S'. But look how far he has come! Please give feedback on what you think (possotive or Negative) And I will try to answer any questions.
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Just to give everyone a heads up; I have renamed the section "Everything Changes and Superstardom" to "Everything Changes, Nobody Else, and Superstardom" so all the studio albums are clearly visible in the band biography. If anybody disagrees,
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Please feel welcome to edit the changes if the majority disagrees with them. And for those who do have much better experience in editing wikis, if you decide to make these changes look "prettier" to the reader, also feel free to do it.
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Where is the reference for Robbie having been spotted outside his hotel in Denmark looking fine when he had food poisoning? I have looked this up on Google and can find no mention of it anywhere. Is there any evidence to back this up?
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disambiguation "is the process of resolving conflicts in article titles that occur when a single term can be associated with more than one topic, making that term likely to be the natural choice of title for more than one article."
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Why are the album cover images constantly deleted? The Backstreet Boys page has many album images that stay. Can someone clarify why the TT keep being taken off? How are they breaking copyright laws if other pages can feature them?
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After becoming a dad for the second time and hankering for a solo revival, Robbie took the decision to leave Take That once more, albeit under much more amicable circumstances second time around – the boys in the band remain firm
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Is there any way we can get a free licensed picture of Take That, all we seem to be getting at the moment are copyright infringements and fan photos that arent good enough mainly because they dont show the whole group in
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maybe because they weren't copyrighted/ I quite like the current pic, sadly I don't have that many up close ones off all of them, though I have a few of Never Forget(and the one on Jason's page is also mine)
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It's been made quite clear on a number of occasions that the band are now officially considered a four-piece. This has been confirmed by Gary Barlow on both The One Show and Alan Carr Chatty Man this week.
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There have been no announcements made regarding the return of Robbie Williams to the band yet people persist in editing him back into the band here. It should be protected to prevent such vandalism.
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There is no proof that Robbie Williams would be leaving Take That as soon as he rejoined it. As of now, we might as well put him on the current members list until further announcements commence.
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Can people please stop mentioning Street Beat and Cutest Rush? As revealed many times now this was a false story created by NMS and the members didn't know each other before the audition. Thanks!
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/15164993#:~:text=X%20Factor%20judge%20Gary%20Barlow,That%20for%20the%20second%20time.&text=With%20their%20tour%20over%2C%20the,on%20his%20new%20solo%20album
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To whom it may concern: I have read the discussions and the hidden message regarding Robbie Williams' stint in take that as being an active member or being a former member, that which reads:
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cycle ended in 2012. To show him in the members section as part of the band until 2014 is misleading in my opinion. This is something that needs a consensus to avoid potential edit warring.
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Take That-performance since 2012's Music Industry Trust Awards. If we should make the article about williams' activity in the group complete i think we should include this in his timeline.
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A compromise statement can set forth the facts that the musical uses songs composed by Barlow in the 1990s and that in 2006 Barlow and EMI licensed the songs for use in the show. --
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Yeah, it appears that Rob won't ever be announced as leaving Take That, he'll just release a solo album during the year that Take That take off and always remain part of the group.
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There is no mention of Gary Barlow's brief acting career He appeared in the TV show "Heartbeat" (1 episode, 2000)in the episode "The Son-In-Law" (2000) as character "Micky Shannon"
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There's no mention of their full list of songs produced so far. Would also be nice to have a bit on the various managers and other people involved in Take That's success, etc. --
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I notice most other artists have a link to a page documenting a complete list of their songs. Is there a reason why Take That do not? I would be happy to work to create one. --
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section, where I changed the title from "second departure" to "distancing". The graph was also slightly altered. Once again I insist, I did NOT change Robbie's status back to
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process, you have made your edits, they've been reverted, so we're here in the discussion stage - restoring your preferred version is disruptive to the process at this time.
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I have a very vague memory that the band were originally called Take That! (with an exclamation mark). I can't find any evidence for such a claim though. Can anyone else?
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It comes just weeks after Barlow organised a huge concert outside Buckingham Palace for the Queen's Diamond Jubilee, and went on to be given an OBE in the Birthday Honours.
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It would be nice for them if that was the case, but we can never say never I suppose. In any case, it appears the lineup will be stable for the forseeable future at least.
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Barlow follows in the footsteps of last year's MIT Award winner Jools Holland, while previous winners have included Sir Elton John, Sir Tom Jones and Kylie Minogue.
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The singer-songwriter will be the recipient of the annual Music Industry Trusts Award with a charity dinner to recognise his contribution over the past two decades.
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If you read this, it says that Robbie left the band on April 27 in 2014, right before the departure of Jason Orange and before the recordings of III (2014 album)
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So, on behalf of those seeking fair and balanced wikipedia articles, please editors, just try a little to make this a little more objective and a little deeper.
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Jason Orange didn’t attend to any Take Events in 2013 or 2014 so do you all so want to change that to 2012...? That is not right, you’re doing it all wrong.
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I don't know why someone added the link to his page. There was a mini biography under Robs heading like the other four. Hopefully someone will rewrite it.
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please cite the source you claim for this. Changing the article without providing a source is disruptive, especially to articles about living people: see
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Yes, but it was also announced that Gary Barlow's words were taken out of context. Take That management has today come out and rubbished these rumours
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licensed by 'Take That'. It would be strange if there wasn't a link to the musical page from here. (As the user above pointed out in June last year)
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page. There is FAR more relevant information about the actual article - TAKE THAT - that isn't on the page as it is. Please keep the topic relevant.
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Although the tabloids are stating he has left Take That, the official statement of the band states clearly that the five piece of Take That are on a
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This is a pretty important event, because it was why the band disbanded in the first place. However in the article the explanation doesn't go beyond
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https://web.archive.org/web/20110809080222/http://www.theofficialcharts.com/chart-news/take-that-progress-back-to-number-one-and-example-holds-firm/
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Surely we can find a better main image? A clearer one that shows them better and larger. Again, any better ones keep getting deleted. Confusing.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20150702233411/http://www.radiocentre.org/latest-industry-news/arqiva-commercial-radio-awards-2012-winners-announced
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Mentioning of their participation of the charity single "Everybody Hurts" for Haiti earthquake.--Cooly123 01:52, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
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why was the in other media info shortened? I added Shameless and someone else added The Office prior to that... both(and others) gone now
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What's unfortunate is that at the same time as writing this, you reverted the article for a fifth time. This is in clear violation of
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Okay I can't seem to find anything regarding 45 million in this article. Can you point me to it? Here's the whole article from here
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I might have missed it, but is there any mention in the article of the jukebox musical that will be made based on their music? --
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Well so take a look at this link from the official Take That site. Check the timeline on the event happening on April 27th 2014.
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section. That would start a long and unnecessary discussion between the fandom and the wikipedians alike. I did, however, add an
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Bless your heart for thinking that the publication date of the BBC News article is the exact date Williams departed the group;)
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https://web.archive.org/web/20140316225932/http://www.takethat.com/news/2012/05/take-that-win-at-the-57th-ivor-novello-awards
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They must have changed his wording a lot to get that out-of-context. None-the-less, we have the evidence we need. Regards,
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Also, the biography for Robbie Williams has a link to his personal Wiki-page, none of the others have the internal link.
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You'll need to present an argument a bit more convincing than that tautological statement. I'll point you once again to
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Williams rejoined the band for one performance, so the only appropriate way to annotate this in the timeline would be
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There seems to be some disputes about this. Is there any reliable source that states whether Robbie has left again?--
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to support your proposed changes that go against the rough consensuses out of not one, but two discussions above.
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The 21st annual MIT dinner on November 5 will benefit music therapy charity Nordoff Robbins and the Brit Trust.
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Last year's event featured a video message from the Prince Of Wales who praised Holland's work.
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Take That star Gary Barlow is to be celebrated with an honorary award from the music business.
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So in the big picture Robbie Willams active years in Take That: 1989-1995, 2009-2014, 2020 --
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You've obviously never seen the Do what you like video nor the original Give Good Feeling ;)
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I dont think so ;) a lot of the articles on wikipedia has very much false information  ;)
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Thanks for clarifying. I agree that Robbie is not "officially" part of the band anymore.
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So here I go, I did change a couple of things regarding Robbie Williams and Take That.
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Robbie officially left the group with a tweet from April 2014. Not in 2011 or 2012.
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Do you want me to find more new articles, about robbie williams departure in 2011?
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PS: I changed Jason's colour to Orange. How didn't anybody think of this before?!
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It has recently come to my attention that in 1994, in parallel to the release of
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This article looks more like a daily fan blog than an encyclopedia article. --
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It Only Takes a Minute charted 1 June 1992 not 1982 as stated in the article
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This entire article reads like a fan wrote it. needs a complete overhaul.
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Looking forward to restore it to the right edition in march 2021. :)
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Robbie officially left in 2014 so that’s what I’m doing to write.
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Perhaps this could go on Garys page, if it's not already there?
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