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You are simply saying that it isn't /ɪ/ because there is no letter in Tamil representing that sound. However many phonemes do not have or have the same letter representing them in Tamil. For instance, at the end of words it is /ɯ/ not /u/ this is known as குற்றியலுகரம் and there are many sources to
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