2082:(University of Toronto Press 1993, rpt. 1997, 2001), which includes chapters from every leading historian of the region and which was awarded the Canadian Historical Association's Regional Certificate of Merit. There, one can find plenty of challenges to the stereotype of Maritime social conservatism. For instance, in his own chapter on the 1910s, Ian McKay points to progressive reform and post-WW1 working-class revolt as constituting significant social-political movements that directly contradict the "stereotype of a region slumbering in its contented conservatism" (193). Similarly, David Frank writes in the chapter that follows that "recent work on the history of the 1920s in the Maritimes contradicts the stereotype of conservatism that earlier writers have been too ready to accept" (236). "In its place," writes Frank, "we can see that some important groups of Maritimers failed to accept the decline of the region with equanimity and mounted a struggle against the legacy of underdevelopment" (236).
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called "the martimes" and the history pretains to the entire martimes. Maybe a breif description of the history of each province, and maybe how the province interacts with the maritimes as a whole. Anyways just a suggestion, oh and sorry if I offended anyone, acted ignorant, or wrote some biased comments myself none of these were intentional. Anyways I hope to hear what you think.
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Hi folks, sometime in the next two weeks I am coming with my knife, shovel and bucket and I am going to clean this article up. To start I will deleted every bit of original work and claims with no sources. I expect at that point the article will be about 200 words long. If you are particularly
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I find it highly distressing that there really is no mention to the moratorium that has been placed in the area because of the over fishing of Cod. This is a huge impact on the region and many people have left or are living in poverty because so much of the economy was wiped out by this.-Bio2590
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Maybe I'm just crazy-which is a definate possibility-but it seems to me that this article is very Nova Scotia-centric. They do have the largest population of the three provinces, but New Brunswick is not that far behind, so personaly, I think NB should play a larger part in this article.
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